• Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    even if farm animals were slaughtered in the most humane and painless of ways, the way they’re treated while they’re alive is still horrifyingly atrocious

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      5 months ago

      if farm animals were slaughtered in the most humane and painless of ways

      This sounds like a juxtaposition to me. You cannot slaughter a healthy animal in a humane way. “Slaughter” excludes “humane”. I’m not a vegan/vegetarian but it seems to me like this idea that if we just raised happy healthy animals and found a way to kill it nicely then eating meat would be ethically ok. We don’t need to eat meat anymore. Any killing of an animal to make it into food is unnecessary and could be avoided. I think it is important that we meat eaters really internalize this. Every time we eat meat we caused absolutely unnecessary suffering for a quick moment of pleasure.

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        5 months ago

        Culling is not cruel or even morally ambiguous. It is morally and ethically right to cull out of control populations of animals for the betterment of the whole. Culling isn’t even necessarily for the sick or weak. Sometimes healthy young animals have to be put down for the betterment of the environment. Look into native American hunting practice and land conservation methodology.

        Modern farming is very much none of those things though.

  • Luna@lemdro.id
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    5 months ago

    I’ve read the article and damn, this is disturbing af. Isn’t this pig killing method basically the same as what nazi used on humans?

    …I’ll try to reduce the amount of meat in my diet

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      5 months ago

      It’s actually pretty easy to. you probably wont have a great time if you try eat meatsm based dishes without the meat because they’ll taste lacking and be unbalanced.

      Almost all poverty food around the world historically is vegan or at least vegetarian though so there’s huge variety to choose from. In chinese food there’s Buddhist influenced food like: https://thewoksoflife.com/buddhas-delight-lo-han-jai/, lots of African food is vegetarian or vegan (Ethiopian is stand out here), much south Indian food is and a lot of the stuff with yogurt can be made with soy yoghurt (easy to diy if you like) or cashew cream and a sour note, mexican dishes are easily adaptable too.

      Then there are some other hacks like black bean paste and breadcrumbs pressed into patties just works as something you can fry and chuck on a burger (add a few spices to taste), TVP will sub for mince in many saucy dishes where it can absorb the flavour.

      You’ll have fun, it’s an adventure that will teach you so much about how food works around the world!

      Also you can start immediately by just ordering a vegan option every time you eat out. You don’t have to worry about having the skills or ingredients to do that.

      Good luck!

      • bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml
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        5 months ago

        I don’t want to learn new things, I’m just going to eat human, thanks

        Sorry if anyone you like goes missing

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          5 months ago

          Consuming animal products doesn’t inherently lead to animal cruelty. It’s the fact that the vast majority of these products are produced through factory farming, which has little regard for the animals, in the search for the most efficient manner of farming possible. This does lead to animal cruelty. On the other hand, it is definitely possible to consume animal products ethically, if they are raised on a small family farm which genuinely cares and takes time for their animals, and doesn’t take every shortcut possible to produce more.

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              5 months ago

              If you are humanely killing the animals, then yes. Eating meat is a part of human nature, one that I personally object from but still one that isn’t immoral to act on.