I know they’re going to say it is only jokes. Fuck that. I get y’all want to be edgelords, but this is the most dangerous thing that has happened this century. I would be surprised now if we make it to the end of the year without some people getting assassinated for real, and it will target overwhelmingly the leftest end of the spectrum.

Example, example, example. There are others.

Y’all are on the precipice of finding out firsthand the difference between “OMG I’m so oppressed, the police are racist and I’m struggling to pay my bills, civil war y’all” and “OMG I’m so oppressed, a gang of big violent fuckers with bats and boots and the support of the government just attacked my whole community, seriously hurt me, and burned part of my house down. They told us if they find us here tomorrow, they’ll kill us.”

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    So your argument is nobody should make jokes because you’re afraid of his followers rioting…

    What’s your opinion on jokes on Islam and the prophet Mohammed? Because we occasionally have similar discussions. Like back then, when people were afraid of terrorist attacks because of the Mohammed caricatures and people already got stabbed, flags burned etc…

    Of course we could outlaw offending people who are easily offended. Currently that isn’t the case and people are allowed to use dark humour to cope with things.

    Back then, with the caricature situation, we concluded we have to defend democracy and our values… Even at the cost of someone blowing up a subway station and a few hundred people. But there was the same big argument, and some people didn’t agree.

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      I’m not saying nobody should make edgelord jokes in general. I’m saying that no one should be speaking approvingly, whether joking or not, about something that is such a mind-bogglingly terrifying development.

      If someone went into a mosque and shot up the place, but missed a bunch of kids, and someone posted a meme suggesting they needed to do better because their score was way down in C tier, I would be appalled for the same reasons I am appalled by this.

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        But isn’t that besides your initial question? I think we can all agree that shooting people is wrong in 99.9% of cases and should be condemned. I suppose even the majority of edgelords will agree if you ask them for their true opinion and they’d share that.

        But as I understand that wasn’t your question? Your question was if it’s okay to crack jokes about bad things. Or if you can anticipate a joke will lead to negative consequences?! That’s why I’m drawing that parallel…

        And it’s a different question. Commiting a crime and talking about it (in whatever form) are two seperate things and need to be discussed seperately.