What encrypted messenger do you use most that isn’t Zucking Meta’s Whatsapp and Signal?
Edit Also, besides iMessage and RCS. Sorry thanks
Besides your list? Matrix via element or elementX. I’ve been test driving arcane chat, which is decent enough, but too new to be widely used enough to really say much.
Signal. SimpleX is my backup.
Signal.
“besides Signal…”
Signal provides all the privacy I need, and it’s nowhere near as skeezy as most of the alternatives mentioned in the comments here. As far as I’m concerned, there’s nothing better, but if OP would like to detail their objections to it, I’d be happy to hear them.
They probably don’t feel the need to justify their choice of messengers. If you don’t have an answer to OP’s question it’s probably best to abstain.
iMessage and Threema
Just “encrypted”? Probably iMessage.
I would guess Telegram if the users hit the toggle wherever it’s not default. After what you’ve listed and Telegram, I’d guess Matrix/Element
Threema, also has public groups sort of like Telegram
Me? XMPP.
Most used? Depends in what circles. Telegram is popular in some. SimpleX and Session in others. XMPP in free software circles. Matrix in others.
Telegram should not be considered an encrypted solution, due to the opt-in nature of their encryption. The owner regularly collaborates with law enforcement, as well.
Matrix, Briar, SimpleX, Threema
I wish I could use Matrix on my phone without it eating my battery 🫤
This is the way.
I use Jami and Session. Interested to check out SimpleX Chat though.
Matrix is the only one I actually use other than the rest.
There is also XMPP, SimpleX, Threema, Briar, cwtch, Tox, and Delta Chat.
I can’t even get my social circle to switch from WhatsApp to Signal, let alone anything else. I use Conversations, a feature rich XMPP client for select stuff.
while i agree, i figure most people would be really annoyed with this
What is your solution and does it actually work?
we haven’t solved this.
So, try this.
i don’t really want people pulling this type of stuff on me, and i don’t feel like doing it to others. i don’t feel like its a solution either.
Doesn’t sound like you’re looking for a solution.
I have tried them all, I just use XMPP through Cheogram (mobile) and Movim (desktop in browser) now. I have had success getting my contacts to switch since I never bugged them about any other messengers before. Plus I am willing to follow through with ultimatums of abandonment and they are well aware of that.
If you have any actually normal friends (no offense) you’re going to have to use the regular phone network. XMPP has the best phone network gateway, I’ve bought like five Soprani.ca numbers. No it doesn’t encrypt the regular phone network.
Delta/Arcane Chat is cool but due to everyone basically being an admin-level user in the chat, I strictly use it as a home base for real homies. I mainly use it to run one gajillion bots, check my emails, run Mastodon/Misskey fork accounts in one location, and send stuff/WebXDC apps to myself.
None of these are verifiably private. SimpleX, Matrix and PGP encrypted messages (you can use any messenger here) are some truly private options.
I believe matrix can leak metadata.
Wire.
