The 10% stacks additively, each time you do the deal, this status is applied to a different 10%. If you sacrifice 10 fingers, the entire world is guaranteed basic human needs (food, water, shelter, clothing, healthcate, etc…)

Nobody knows you saved them. Would you do it?


If everyone knows about the fact that you can do this deal, would that change your mind?

  • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 months ago

    I’ll be honest: none. I’m not making shady deals like that. Besides, shortcuts always come with giant caveats that you don’t know in advance. Like: how long is this guaranteed for? Will it magically prevent people from depriving others of their needs (murder, arson, imprisonment, torture, etc.)? How will it be sustained, and how would it affect the rest of life on Earth?

    No no no, count me out. I’m not taking that deal just to find out it only applies for 1 month or some crap like that and people can still kill each other.

    Plus, I like my fingers. I use them every day!

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      4 months ago

      1 month of universal basic needs met for every human alive could easily be world-reshaping

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      4 months ago

      This is what I think when characters in fiction want achieve inmortality. Yeah dude, inmortality is one thing, but good health is other thing. You can get disabled, unable to walk, even worse, been in a vegetal state, but hey, you are inmortal.

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    4 months ago

    If I have the chance to do something helpful or even remotely worthwhile with my life I’m gonna take it. All ten, let’s go.

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    I wouldn’t mind losing all my fingers if it would make the world better. It’s a small price to pay for so much.

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    Of course I’d do it. Lack of fingers would be an inconvience, sure, but there’s cool technology like 3d printing that I could use to get by okay. The inconvience is more than worth it for people to have basic human needs. Plus, with everyone having basic needs they’d be able to spend their time doing things that they enjoy and are passionate about. In all the population of the earth there are definitely gonna be people whose mission is to get people functioning bionic fingers that work like the real deal. I don’t care about people knowing. It would be more annoying if they did because then people would constantly be thanking me and receiving compliments is awkward.

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    4 months ago

    All 10 even if they have to be taken off with a hacksaw. I would be concerned about the being who could so easily do this, but has a sick desire to maim me first though.

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    4 months ago

    The maximum expected value is about 61.3% of the population covered by this deal. That’s probably off by a few tenths, since I ran the numbers in my phone calculator and messed up my entry at about 7 fingers in.

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    4 months ago

    Wait wait, by saying 10% stacks each time, do you mean 10% of the original number, or 10% of the remaining number of people?

    Like, for the sake of simplicity, 10 billion to start with, 10%, so 1 billion for the first finger. Then does it become 10% of the remaining 9 billion, so around 900 million, or another 10% of 10 billion?

    I would likely still do it, even if all 10 fingers wouldn’t save humanity together, but if I could also pass this deal, it would be interesting to get 10 random people off the street and present the choice to them. If the collective has the solidarity necessary to want to save others, it shows just how justified it is for them to be saved.

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    So how does the 10% get chosen? Like if the first 10% were all the people desperately in need of it, that’s an easy finger. But if there is a potential that only wealthy people could be effected by that, then the loss of the finger would be meaningless. If it’s totally random each time, it’s a harder choice since you really aren’t helping 10% of the population each time, given that many will already have basic needs met.

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      Completely random. A quantum-dice roll, impossible to predict. If they were already rich, it just means that if they go bankrupt, they still have their safety-net, they just lose all their luxury stuff. But they don’t notice any change if their basic needs are already met.

      Losing 10 fingers would guarantee the status effect applied to everyone.

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        4 months ago

        Then it’s not completely random though. Random would mean there’s a non-zero chance the same 10% get picked for every finger sacrificed.

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    Depends: for how long? 1 finger = 10% of humanity has all of their basic survival needs met forever? Done and done, take all 10. Seems like an extremely tiny price to pay to alleviate a colossal amount of suffering in the world forever, and without all those people being distracted by meeting their basic needs odds are technology is going to advance even more rapidly, along with the quality of things like medical prosthetics and neural interfaces and shit. So, yes please bring on the cyberpunk without the dystopia.

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    Yeah, it’s definitely all ten, although I can see how I would regret that choice from time to time.

    Fortunately, robot hands are pretty cool, and I’m sure that if the world were prosperous and they saw somebody with no fingers, they would all chip in to help back out. So it wouldn’t be like terrible forever, but it would definitely have its moments where it sucks.

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    4 months ago

    Hey—so uh—you didn’t say whose fingers were have to sacrifice. This is a no brainier.

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    4 months ago

    yes because there would be billions of people who would be willing to lift my drink to my lips for a sip and and help me dress etc