And the whole set of problems only exist because there are too many cars.
Broke: Car C is being a responsible, safety focused driver
Woke: Car C is holding up traffic for no good reason
Bespoke: Car Pink is whipping around that turn at 80 kmph and going to kill everyone anyone, so don’t sweet it.
Just go right over the center and see if you can clear C and D.
The lion does not concern himself with car C. Car D should plough straight through them.
Car C is really just waiting for the pink car to arrive so that they can slam the gas as soon as it does.
Turnabout fucking sucks.
Way more go wrong than lights, increase car to car interactions massively, inappropriate european fad. This for place that don’t mind getting bog down doing more than an hour to get 50km away because they don’t have important things to do
Better than 4-way stop signs, fuck that noise.
I’ll just put this here so people can actually get som real info and not the nonsense you are spewing.
I won’t be reading roubdabout propaganda and the reader shouldn’t either. We seen first hand these things proliferate and make driving even more of a chore dumped on travellers willy nilly.
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Thanks so much, very cool
Traffic circles are safer, reduce maintenance costs, slows the fucking speeders and more efficient than your fucking stop sign and signal intersections.
Turns travel into a slog. Turnabout land is infected, essentially a cancerous mass growing out of the city, taking over the land, urbanisation.
Mfs don’t even stop at stop signs anymore, they just slowly crawl and go. It’s like the overuse of the stop signs made them into a fancy yeild sign.
I knew a girl who was instructed to turn left at a roundabout, so she proceeded to turn left when merging into the roundabout.
Poor girl, fortunately everything was fine (she did fail, but no accidents) but that’s a special kind of ‘too literal’ that loops back around to being dumb.
And that’s why turn-by-turn navigation systems phrase it as “take the third exit from the roundabout” these days.
One of the work trucks used to have one that said “Go straight through the roundabout”. It was pretty tempting sometimes to take it at its word…
The hard part is when back to back traffic for 15 miles worth of cars is coming from one direction and everyone else is either too scared to zipper merge or they allow the one direction to have perpetual right of way.
At some point of heavy traffic, the circle right of way must yield for zipper merging, else face my ass aggro merging and beeping at everyone who doesn’t.
Wait until you see the magic roundabout in the UK. It’s a “close your eyes, pray and hit the gas” type of place.
I’ve seen this so often before and I still don’t understand why they didn’t just build an ordinary roundabout. It’s just six roads that meet there. That’s not beyond ordinary roundabout capabilities. Who said “you know what, let’s just do a circular arrangement of five roundabouts here, that’s so much better than what people are used to”?
My money is on “the french love roundabouts so we’re not doing that”
That roundabout needs a speaker constantly playing Entry of the Gladiators on repeat
Then you see the cars completely ignoring the sub-circles and driving over them or backwards to the arrows.
It’s really five regular roundabouts circling one central roundabout.
People will unironically see this and proclaim that it’s actually not that complicated…
I drove through that one, not easy. I prefer the turbine design we use in Germany.
No one will ever be able to invade the UK, they’ll get stuck in this horror.
Holy hell
Left side driving should be illegal
It is in the most places on earth.
Good.
F. The more fundamental problem is that these are all cars, not bikes. Fuck cars.
Right, that’s the funny thing about roundabouts. They’re a marvelous solution to local motor vehicle throughput. That become completely unnecessary if your traffic is anything besides motor vehicles. In fact, for bikes and pedestrians and anyone else who can look at each other eye to eye and even just talk to one another if need be, no signals or signs are necessary at all.
They become more necessary in a bike-centric world… as velodromes.
Well yes, but actually bikes wouldn’t even need a roundabout with rules like this in the first place.
I’m waiting til it becomes normal for individuals to use old school buses as their commuter vehicles. It’s the inevitable destination of the car size war.
AmeriKan drivers and traffic circles equates to an inefficient cluster fuck. When departing the circle, use your damn turn signal so I can enter!!!
Those small green pissing pyramids are blocking the road.
Replace the pink car with a bicycle an A is suddenly not being in the mood to yield anymore.
I’m a daily cyclist and I think I’d be terrified to bike through a full roundabout. They’re absolutely marvelous designs for throughput that doesn’t require complex signal automation, but the flip side of that is they’re pretty hostile if you’re not a motor vehicle. Any truly good roundabout design should include pedestrian and cycle paths along the periphery that have priority when crossing the circles entrances.
On the other hand, I am not expecting a cycle path for me when I am going around the normal road speed. Just if people start understanding the cycles are also traffic and not something to be plo’d over.
But that’s not the thing either. It feels like people are just playing a game of ‘chcken’ all over the place.
All cars will yield to a bicycle in the UK, because less protected members of the road traffic always take priority.
All cars should yield.
When I used to cycle, I’d just go on the pavements at large roundabouts. Not much point in being right but dead.
I personally never had any issues. British drivers are very polite and cautious.
Welp, I’m not in the UK.
Over here, people go with - what is the most threatening to themselves - and it really feels weird that people who have presumably passed the driving exam are worse at roundabouts than me.
I’m always the pink car but get cut off by car A who decides to gun it soon as I’m right where pink car is
Useful, but incomplete.
As the circle enlarges, the system approaches four T-intersections. What I want to know is: at what size circle to people lose their minds and become unable to comprehend how T-intersections work.
Fair play to people confused about multi-lane roundabouts though.
