And for anyone asking “Why are we boycotting/blocking lemmy.ml?” Here’s a quick recap:

Lemmy.ml is an instance run by admins who are hardcore tankies and will enforce their ideology on their instance through various means from allowing (and pushing it themselves) propaganda (Such as Russia being justified in some way to invade Ukraine) and known propaganda outlets (Like RT) to removing content on their instance critical of their favored authoritarian regimes such as Russia or China and even banning users for such speech or speech critical of them if it’s off their instance (Just like the Reddit mods of ol!).

If it was just some random instance it would have been defederated from long ago like the rest of the “Tankie Triad” (Hexbear and Lemmygrad), but they’ve positioned lemmy.ml as the “flagship” instance and abused that position and influence to become large enough to keep other instances from defederating from them.

Which I believe is harmful to the Lemmy-verse’s overall growth and outside reputation. I have seen it come up before on Reddit threads (and other testimonials from people who came back and tried it again) that “They tried Lemmy but it was a bunch of tankies and went back to Reddit”

I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer Lemmy to not end up with the reputation for being "Tankie Central " or even worse “Voat 2.0”.

So if you haven’t joined the boycott yet, join today and help us foster a better healthier Lemmy-verse!

You can take a look around here on [email protected] for documentation of it or checkout this list of curated documentation

On bans and censorships:

https://lemmy.world/post/28480760

https://lemmy.world/post/28481615

https://lemmy.world/post/28482147

https://lemmy.world/post/28480936

https://lemmy.world/post/28482273

https://lemmy.world/post/28481272

https://lemmy.world/post/28481064

https://lemmy.world/post/27674360

https://lemmy.world/post/27674117

https://lemmy.world/post/27673934

https://lemmy.world/post/27673724

https://lemmy.world/post/27577337

https://lemmy.world/post/27378634

https://lemmy.world/post/27346630

https://lemmy.world/post/27341283

https://lemmy.world/post/27288224

https://lemmy.world/post/27156418

https://lemmy.world/post/27054157

https://lemmy.world/post/27008261

Allowing altered headlines and permitting known propaganda outlets:

https://lemmy.world/post/28275465

https://lemmy.world/post/27428838

https://lemmy.world/post/27416097

https://lemmy.world/post/27314050

https://lemmy.world/post/27288953

Spreading Russia talking points like the Ukraine invasion just being a “negotiating tactic” !https://lemmy.world/post/27012640

General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet: https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

Open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines (head admin)) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

“concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren’t that bad” https://lemmy.world/post/26985447

    • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
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      Option 1: Move to an instance that doesn’t federate with them, like lemmy.cafe.

      Option 2: Go to the settings page on the website, and block the instance. This will stop you from seeing comms on that instance, but you will still see comments and posts by their users in other comms.

      Option 3: Client-specific. If you’re using another client besides the default website, most of them have some way to block and hide all users from an instance as well, usually somewhere in the settings.

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    I’m lucky to not have been too exposed to most of their tankie apologetics for authoritarians, but I did notice a pretty staggering number of them were under the impression that Trump and Harris were literally identical.

    And no, I don’t mean in the “the democrats are center right and often vote similarly to republicans on many issues” ‘identical’ view, I mean “They both do an equally bad amount of things, just in different areas, and neither is worse than the other” 💀

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      Only like 3.5% of the world’s population lives in the US. So if you happen to live in a country that has been negatively affected by US foreign policy in the last 50 years and don’t much care what happens to people inside the US right now, or what labels and pins they put on their jackets, yeah there is little difference between red and blue. Like if you ignore what ideological they profess to and simply look at their actions on other countries.

      Empathy can be “disabled” though certain ideology or religion. Saying such radical things like “no difference” is an attempt help people snap out of this “sociopathic trance”. Or at worst an attempt to mock or scold you for defending an imperialist regime that has caused countless deaths and immense suffering over the last 7 decades.

      Obviously this is futile. And lemmy is much more pleasurable when blocking such people.

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    I always go in and argue with those Tankie fucks when I have time, but I haven’t even seen them in the feeds lately.

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      Active Operators will block know counter propaganda operatives since they know it is a futile exercise.

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        Lmao, nah

        The intention of the exercise is not to appeal to propogandists. It is to inform readers who stumble upon propoganda.

        If what you claimed were true then the offending instances would not ban us for speaking the truth.

  • 🗑️😸@lemm.ee
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    I appreciate this. Id been gone from Lemmy for a bit but just unsubbed from all the .ml groups I had.

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    Yeah, blocked hexbear too.

    Those people are absolutely fucking unhinged and do not engage in any sort of good faith argument.

    After one round, I got name called, after round two asking for clarification, I just left.

    Time is precious, the squirrels in my yard are more coherent than these chucklefucks.

    Hell, even two crows would be better

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      they are more or less the same side of coins as conservatives, they even whine and post the same way.

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      Do you look down upon journalists? What cm is doing isn’t much different than journalism. They’re collecting evidence, bringing attention to and exposing wrongdoing to the public, just on a smaller platform.

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        depends on which journalist, working for MSMs i wouldnt take thier articles genuine.

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      Lol ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ we all have our hobbies bro, don’t hobby-shame

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    I just block every site and user with that ending that I see. I’ve been banned on almost any of their sites anyway.

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      if the opinion is annoying and doesnt provide constructive conversations, opinions almost one-sided anyways and holds bias, i always block them if they become annoying.

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      well put. and every Marxist-Leninist I’ve met irl has been cool, these pricks are either misrepresenting the entire movement or doing it in the worst, most alienating, factually challenged kind of way.

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    Lemmy .ml is partly why I switched to an instance which defederates them. The admin and mod behavior over there is gross. If it weren’t run by the Lemmy devs it would be widely blocked.

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    This just made me realise my feed is just that bit cleaner and there’s so much less news, it’s actually quite calming.

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      I occasionally see people sying this but where does it come from? Afaik Ukraine has as much of a white supremacist problem as Russia, but it is not mainstream or the majority

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        Afaik Ukraine has as much of a white supremacist problem as Russia

        Source? Keep in mind I am a non-white Ukrainian who has lived in both Russia and Ukraine and I speak the languages.

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          Both the most veteran and largest battalions for Russia and Ukraine are promninently filled with neo-nazis in their leadership and within their history.

          Azov and Wagner

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            There is broad agreement among observers that at its formation in Spring 2014, the Azov Battalion was associated with Neo-Nazi and far-right ideas, including through the use of symbolism and the political associations and statements of its leaders and cadre.[71][281] However, there is disagreement about the subsequent course of its evolution. Several researchers have stated in the years since that the Battalion’s successors have depoliticized or deradicalized, identifying key landmarks in that process as its November 2014 incorporation into the national guard, a 2017 expulsion of some far right radicals, and Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022

            Don’t lie! You clearly have no fucking clue what you are talking about and your reference to “white supremacy” in Ukraine is more of an attempt to establish a weird aesthetic. I dislike the term, but virtue signalling is an apt description of what you are doing.

            The fact that you think racism in russia Wagner (or even just Azov in Ukraine) shows that you can’t even conceptually evaluate a concept such the prevalence of racism.

            I was in Kyiv during russian siege in Feb 22. Every 100 m there was a military checkpoint on the road by my place. So you are saying I was discriminated against when I passed those checkpoints and I am lying because I “Ukrainian uncle tom”?

            We then left to the west of the country. We had the security services come to our rental apartment (standard procedure to check for saboteurs). So you claim that I am lying when I say my white relatives were far more freaked out by the interview than I was, because well Ukraine is extremely racists and they had harass me in such a situation?

            And the fact that you think racism in russia is limited to Wagner means that you’re saying I never regularly encountered racism from both security services and regular russians (you probably don’t consider racism against Ukrainians to be racism, but that’s what I encountered in addition to be discrimination and harassment because I am not white).

            Honestly, there is an abstract beauty that you are so confident in your ignorance that you had the gall to show me (a non-white Ukrainian who has lived in both russia and Ukraine for many years) Wikipedia articles for Azov and Wagner as your source.

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        It comes from one of Putin’s justifications for invading Ukraine. One of the “objectives” was to denazify Ukraine. Tankies will point to neo Nazis like the original Azov Battalion fighting for Ukraine as proof Putin was right. Has 0 basis in reality but tankies dont live in reality.