Good job everyone blocking and boycotting .ml! It’s having an effect, users are noticing and MAUs on their comms are falling!
And for anyone asking “Why are we boycotting/blocking lemmy.ml?” Here’s a quick recap:
Lemmy.ml is an instance run by admins who are hardcore tankies and will enforce their ideology on their instance through various means from allowing (and pushing it themselves) propaganda (Such as Russia being justified in some way to invade Ukraine) and known propaganda outlets (Like RT) to removing content on their instance critical of their favored authoritarian regimes such as Russia or China and even banning users for such speech or speech critical of them if it’s off their instance (Just like the Reddit mods of ol!).
If it was just some random instance it would have been defederated from long ago like the rest of the “Tankie Triad” (Hexbear and Lemmygrad), but they’ve positioned lemmy.ml as the “flagship” instance and abused that position and influence to become large enough to keep other instances from defederating from them.
Which I believe is harmful to the Lemmy-verse’s overall growth and outside reputation. I have seen it come up before on Reddit threads (and other testimonials from people who came back and tried it again) that “They tried Lemmy but it was a bunch of tankies and went back to Reddit”
I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer Lemmy to not end up with the reputation for being "Tankie Central " or even worse “Voat 2.0”.
So if you haven’t joined the boycott yet, join today and help us foster a better healthier Lemmy-verse!
You can take a look around here on [email protected] for documentation of it or checkout this list of curated documentation
Evidence of bans, censorship and bias to push their "ideology":
https://lemmy.world/post/32298242
https://lemmy.world/post/32471440
https://lemmy.world/post/32720369
https://lemmy.world/post/32292143
https://lemmy.world/post/32222856
https://lemmy.world/post/32426343
https://lemmy.world/post/32058315
https://lemmy.world/post/32426884
https://lemmy.world/post/32191006
https://lemmy.world/post/32720652
https://lemmy.world/post/32676095
https://lemmy.world/post/32298242
https://lemmy.world/post/32292143
https://lemmy.world/post/32221990
https://lemmy.world/post/32222278
https://lemmy.world/post/32222991
https://lemmy.world/post/32223697
https://lemmy.world/post/32224698
https://lemmy.world/post/32425984
https://lemmy.world/post/31569892
https://lemmy.world/post/31368129
https://lemmy.world/post/31329952
https://lemmy.world/post/31596159
https://lemmy.world/post/30665418
https://lemmy.world/post/30876228
https://lemmy.world/post/31090903
https://lemmy.world/post/31329952
https://lemmy.world/post/31368129
https://lemmy.world/post/29490804
https://lemmy.world/post/29507466
https://lemmy.world/post/29878102
https://lemmy.world/post/29980157
https://lemmy.world/post/28480760
https://lemmy.world/post/28481615
https://lemmy.world/post/28482147
https://lemmy.world/post/28480936
https://lemmy.world/post/28482273
https://lemmy.world/post/28481272
https://lemmy.world/post/28481064
https://lemmy.world/post/27674360
https://lemmy.world/post/27674117
https://lemmy.world/post/27673934
https://lemmy.world/post/27673724
https://lemmy.world/post/27577337
https://lemmy.world/post/27378634
https://lemmy.world/post/27346630
https://lemmy.world/post/27341283
https://lemmy.world/post/27288224
https://lemmy.world/post/27156418
Allowing known propaganda outlets and permitting altered headlines:
https://lemmy.world/post/32323822
https://lemmy.world/post/32283425
https://lemmy.world/post/32289824
https://lemmy.world/post/32337368
https://lemmy.world/post/30843744
https://lemmy.world/post/28275465
https://lemmy.world/post/27428838
https://lemmy.world/post/27416097
“NK is actually good, and anything counter to that is Western LIES” ~dessalines, .ml admin, head Lemmy dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
Spreading Russia talking points like the Ukraine invasion just being a “negotiating tactic” !https://lemmy.world/post/27012640
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet: https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
Open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines (head admin)) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
“concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren’t that bad” https://lemmy.world/post/26985447
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
A .ml admins’ (davel) response to a valid report of “NK is actually good” propaganda/misinfo https://lemmy.world/post/32627834
“The China censorship tool isnt actually censorship! And if it is, it’s actually a good thing a state has that much power!” ~Tankies of .ml https://lemmy.world/post/30010789
Rooting for Russia in the Russia-Ukraine war https://lemmy.world/post/29274763
Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558
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Get a hobby omg
LMAO not even a 10 minute account and you come straight here, nothin but a lil troll
Stop being a coward and troll with your main lolol
You only have one life man. You could learn how to sew or play the guitar, learn about 16th century Azerbaijan, who knows. I’m worried about you. This is not healthy behavior
You’ve created hundreds of alts, antiyanks, why you lecturing others about not having a life?
What I wish is that you didn’t need to depend on your instance to block other instances so much, but that it was easier to block comments and posts coming from those instances at a personal level. It is very buggy in some instances. I also wish that when a user that is blocked or banned from an instance or the user of a comment or a post they are replying to, it would indicate so. It isn’t that there is no reply to what they are saying, it’s that we are not bothering with it, and that would make it obvious when it happens.
What I wish is that you didn’t need to depend on your instance to block other instances so much, but that it was easier to block comments and posts coming from those instances at a personal level.
You can block any instance in your account settings, same as communities or users.
I joined Lemmy in November. By New Years I had independently figured out what was wrong with .ml and its users.
The less of that garbage, the better.
What app so you use to browse lemmy and how do I block .ml?
I was against blocking them because i dont want to create an echochamber(and i still support this on an instance level) but after they banned me and just keep downvote bombing anyone whos not a fucking poo tin or whinnie boot licker i had to block them.
they were never posting/arguing in good faith, ml and hexbear are insular echo chambers. the amount of posts i accidentally entered in ml and hexbear were all badfaith arguments. i pointed out sg1 in some propaganda discussion, and they called it to “liberal propaganda”
And when you say anything anti-Hamas or Stalin you get people who just continue to insult you and downvote bomb you.
I’m lucky to not have been too exposed to most of their tankie apologetics for authoritarians, but I did notice a pretty staggering number of them were under the impression that Trump and Harris were literally identical.
And no, I don’t mean in the “the democrats are center right and often vote similarly to republicans on many issues” ‘identical’ view, I mean “They both do an equally bad amount of things, just in different areas, and neither is worse than the other” 💀
The amount of “both sides” is gross tbh.
Only like 3.5% of the world’s population lives in the US. So if you happen to live in a country that has been negatively affected by US foreign policy in the last 50 years and don’t much care what happens to people inside the US right now, or what labels and pins they put on their jackets, yeah there is little difference between red and blue. Like if you ignore what ideological they profess to and simply look at their actions on other countries.
Empathy can be “disabled” though certain ideology or religion. Saying such radical things like “no difference” is an attempt help people snap out of this “sociopathic trance”. Or at worst an attempt to mock or scold you for defending an imperialist regime that has caused countless deaths and immense suffering over the last 7 decades.
Obviously this is futile. And lemmy is much more pleasurable when blocking such people.
i found out earlier how to block instances like hexbear and ml.
@[email protected] do you think this thread would make a good candidate for a sticky?
I’m updating this fairly frequently as my megathread now LMAO
ye sure. maybe edit the title to make it a megathread? or have the title be something about examples of extremism from the lemmy developers?
Updated, this should work better: “Documentation of Lemmy.ml’s Extremism [Megathread]”
hanks pal
Haha ok. I would never be happy sitting behind some blockade on the fediverse, unable to even see what others are saying. Its funny that you are so afraid of their opinions that you have to lock yourself in the basement. But you do you. :)
Haha ok. I would never be happy sitting behind some blockade on the fediverse, unable to even see what others are saying.
There’s a difference between a veteran Lemming making a conscious choice to “see the other side for themselves” and a tentative-ex-Redditor checking the vibes of a new unknown place.
Its funny that you are so afraid of their opinions that you have to lock yourself in the basement. But you do you. :)
Lol, no. I’ve read their opinions, debated them multiple times even, and have come to the conclusion that their “opinions” are as toxic and/or dangerous misinformation as far-right “opinions”. Authoritarianism is authoritarianism whether it’s right or left shaded.
If anything, I’m afraid of the potential damage it’s doing to the Lemmy-verse.
Every person that comes here, is another person Reddit has lost and another notch against corporate social media. And that’s a beautiful thing worth protecting IMO
100% agree with the last part. But misinformation is fought by having discussions about it, not by censoring it.
You say you are afraid of the potential damage its doing to the fediverse. Well, now you have removed your voice from the discussions. They will still be there, even if you are not looking at them. You just walked away from it.
You know when you “protect” kids by not talking about something, it only becomes more exciting to them? I dont know, I rather just talk to the kids about it. Have a laugh about how weird the world is together.
And I agree, debating them is not really worth doing. But state your opinion and walk away. I have some unpopular opinions too that Lemmy doesnt like. But I keep saying them. Because i still think im right about those things. But im not going to debate for long. Its not worth our time.
But state your opinion and
walk away.get dogpiled by tankies calling you a western propagandist and then banned.Fixed. Seriously just scroll this comm to see what kind of “discussion” they allow.
Its understandable that tankies may react that way. But im not a tankie and I think their response leads to complete ignorance about what the world actually is.
So maybe we shouldnt act like tankies ourselves, being members of the western world, with a more democratic view of what people deserve to have and be?
Nah, no civility-pill crap. Allowing an echo chamber so detached from reality to remain connected to the largest instance will only serve to alienate people who don’t fellate a statue of Stalin every morning. If it were possible to actually have nuanced discussion there, I would feel different, but it isn’t, so I don’t.
No one is afraid of their opinions. Everyone who has been on the fedi for a while has heard them, over, and over, and over. The mods, and the portion of the users who are grouped in with them, are campists who will defend anything places like China do, even if it is the exact same shit as the western imperialists. They also tend to spout a lot of apologia for harsh, punitive, legal systems, and police states, as long as it calls itself socialist. Hell, don’t even need to do that anymore, just have to be like “hey NATO imperialism bad!” and they will come to defend the honor of a country that is actively annexing, and colonizing, other states, because imperialism is acceptable when it isn’t the west. It is just them defending themselves, and/or liberating oppressed people, just like the US claims every time it bombs somewhere into the dirt. I have witnessed multiple instances of .ml users automatically dismissing any data from any source “western”, while claiming you aren’t capable of having a good faith argument, if you dismiss information from the CCP, in kind.
I find that the large body of .ml users are not like this, but their mods, and a significant portion of the users, namely the most commonly seen names, are very much this way. There is no argument to be had, there is no fruitful discussion here. They are in their camp, and they can’t seem to truly understand people can hate both camps, and actually not want what either offers. So why interact at this point?
Yes, “Mao was good actually” is terrifying to me. It’s such a fresh, novel, and revolutionary concept that I feel my mind unraveling every time I see a brave ml warrior post it. Same with “war is bad so Ukraine is bad for defending against invasion.” The sheer intellect required to achieve such a unique understanding of these concepts is truly intimidating.
Ignoring the misinformation, support for genocides and authoritarian regimes, no one is afraid of their ‘opinions’.
It’s just that most .ml users are absolute cancer to discuss with
> dotworld user
Pot calling the kettle shit tbh
Blahaj user
Shit calling the manure rank tbh
What’s wrong with blahaj? I thought they were one of the cool servers.
Generally, yes, but they’re also a wee bit authoritarian on some things, so people get maaaaad
They allowed a blatant troll to post often and repeatedly for a looooong time (think they finally banned their ass, tho)
Oh is this about their admin being a lil ban happy? I remember reading one of their transcripts, and it seemed justified.
So anecdotal ofc. I know not all.
Removed by mod
Russia won ww2 get over it
Really funny you had to make another account just to troll because .ml is blocked by so many
It really is hilarious. They can’t resist the urge to try and spread their filth outside of their instance, and get laughed at and shit on every single time.
What’s the easiest way for me to block and hide it?
Option 1: Move to an instance that doesn’t federate with them, like lemmy.cafe.
Option 2: Go to the settings page on the website, and block the instance. This will stop you from seeing comms on that instance, but you will still see comments and posts by their users in other comms.
Option 3: Client-specific. If you’re using another client besides the default website, most of them have some way to block and hide all users from an instance as well, usually somewhere in the settings.
Thanks!!
They make it extremely difficult, while still remaining on Lemmy.
PieFed makes it trivially easy. As do the older apps Sync and Connect. Otherwise you are looking at something like a custom Ublock Origin filter rule, or starting your own instance (or joining one that has already defederated from them, which almost none do).
The “instance block” is sadly misnamed as it does not block the instance, nor its users, and would be better thought of as a community mute.
PieFed is awesome for other reasons - it has a ton of features that Lemmy lacks, and is even working on features that Reddit itself did not bother with (notice how all of its features for the last many years were designed solely to increase profits, rather than enhance user experiences?). Its being built using Python rather than the extremely difficult to use Rust is really catapulting its development into overdrive.
Yay another thread where .ml users will post so I can block them!
Hopefully we can grow up as a community and defederate completely one day!
Oh and all of their alts too!
“Known propaganda outlets (like RT)”
Sorry but… What’s RT mean in this context? Rooster Teeth? I’ve got no clue.
Just absolutely love your guess though
Lol my B. Couldn’t think of anything RT as an abbreviation but that
You don’t need to defend yourself. Would that the world were so kind
Oh, uhm. Sorry? I think? I’m not sure what I’m supposed to say this time haha. Thanks? Maybe…? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m not sure what I meant!
Me either 😅
RT stands for Russia Today.
Thank you for answering
It’s those damn Reds, again.
I can’t tell if “reds” means communists or if this post was written by Church.
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Oh that crazy Sarge again!
I do know RvB, sorry! Just hadn’t looked at my phone till now!
I’m kinda still new here, so thanks for the info! I think I’ve figured out how to block the instance, but is there a guide on blocking or something or a way to check?
Usually clients have some option to do it but the steps might be different based on what client you’re using.
Right now I’m on Voyager for example and if let’s say I wanted to block your instance I could click your profile and click the options. One of the options on that screen is “View Instance” and from there I have the option to block the instance.
There’s also post filters but I know a lot less about setting those up. But iirc one of the things you can filter posts by is the instance the post comes from.
Block OP and you will never see these kinds of posts again. OP is a butthurt troll which does nothing but rage against ml all day.
Blocking you would be a far more productive thing to do. cm0002 isn’t a troll, but you sure are. Always bringing the dumbest, most idiotic takes to every discussion.
Block OP and lemmy becomes a ghost town
I would wager 90% of his content is Reddit reposts and the other 10% is anti .ml hate raiding.
You cannot block an entire instance in Lemmy today. The best you can do is block seeing posts from that instance in your timeline. The users are still free to send you death threats. The Lemmy devs have promised this feature later in the year, but given how it will likely be used against their .ml instance most liberally, and they will have fewer victims to attack, I am dubious it ever gets released.
cause nobody wants to get dragged into a ten page discussion about why China and Russia are the most democratic countries in the world