2025-22-08: Due to a (suspected .ml) troll spamming the comment section, you’ll now need to sort the comments by “Top” to see the actual comments from users on this post.

Good job everyone blocking and boycotting .ml! It’s having an effect, users are noticing and MAUs on their comms are falling!

And for anyone asking “Why are we boycotting/blocking lemmy.ml?” Here’s a quick recap:

Lemmy.ml is an instance run by admins who are hardcore tankies and will enforce their ideology on their instance through various means from allowing (and pushing it themselves) propaganda (Such as Russia being justified in some way to invade Ukraine) and known propaganda outlets (Like RT) to removing content on their instance critical of their favored authoritarian regimes such as Russia or China and even banning users for such speech or speech critical of them if it’s off their instance (Just like the Reddit mods of ol!).

If it was just some random instance it would have been defederated from long ago like the rest of the “Tankie Triad” (Hexbear and Lemmygrad), but they’ve positioned lemmy.ml as the “flagship” instance and abused that position and influence to become large enough to keep other instances from defederating from them.

Which I believe is harmful to the Lemmy-verse’s overall growth and outside reputation. I have seen it come up before on Reddit threads (and other testimonials from people who came back and tried it again) that “They tried Lemmy but it was a bunch of tankies and went back to Reddit”

I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer Lemmy to not end up with the reputation for being "Tankie Central " or even worse “Voat 2.0”.

So if you haven’t joined the boycott yet, join today and help us foster a better healthier Lemmy-verse!

You can take a look around here on [email protected] for documentation of it or checkout this list of curated documentation

Noteworthy Selection

Full collection list at the end

Dessalines - Head .ml admin - Head Lemmy Dev

“Slava Ukraini” is considered a “Fascist slogan” - https://lemmy.world/post/36065538

“NK is actually good, and anything counter to that is Western LIES” - https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

“The BBC is not a credible news source” - https://lemmy.world/post/35824465

Showing support for Ukraine on .ml is worthy of a site ban - https://lemmy.world/post/32775563

Open declaration of support for Russia - https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! - https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

Censoring criticism of China while allowing fellow “in-crowd” user “concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren’t that bad” misinfo to remain - https://lemmy.world/post/26985447

Censoring when users call out propaganda - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522

Discussing winnie the pooh and/or the negatives of china is a 30 day ban - https://lemmy.world/post/35374967

Davel - .ml admin

Spreading anti-ukraine Russian propaganda - https://lemmy.world/post/34655572

General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet - https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” - https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

Response to a valid report of “NK is actually good” as propaganda/misinfo https://lemmy.world/post/32627834

Removal of a credible article that was on the Uyghur genocide - https://lemmy.world/post/33205310

It’s totally fine when Russia kills woman and children, war is war after all - https://lemmy.world/post/33224299

Nutomic - 2nd in command Lemmy Dev

Their continued transphobia - https://lemmy.world/post/29222558

General Tankie user behaviour

“Propaganda is good actually” - https://lemmy.world/post/36162233

“The China censorship tool isnt actually censorship! And if it is, it’s actually a good thing a state has that much power!” https://lemmy.world/post/30010789

Rooting for Russia in the Russia-Ukraine war https://lemmy.world/post/29274763

Spreading Russia talking points like the Ukraine invasion just being a “negotiating tactic” https://lemmy.world/post/27012640

Biden is worse than Trump - https://lemmy.world/post/33631617

Uyghur Genocide denialism - https://lemmy.world/post/33873969

Full Collection

Evidence of bans, censorship and bias to push their 'ideology'

https://lemmy.world/post/34395059

https://lemmy.world/post/32720369

https://lemmy.world/post/32298242

https://lemmy.world/post/32471440

https://lemmy.world/post/35919522

https://lemmy.world/post/32292143

https://lemmy.world/post/35254858

https://lemmy.world/post/32222856

https://lemmy.world/post/32426343

https://lemmy.world/post/32058315

https://lemmy.world/post/35919814

https://lemmy.world/post/32775892

https://lemmy.world/post/33554899

https://lemmy.world/post/33194656

https://lemmy.world/post/34502019

https://lemmy.world/post/34502777

https://lemmy.world/post/34503244

https://lemmy.world/post/35919218

https://lemmy.world/post/36120253

https://lemmy.world/post/36120386

https://lemmy.world/post/32825174

https://lemmy.world/post/32426884

https://lemmy.world/post/32191006

https://lemmy.world/post/32720652

https://lemmy.world/post/32676095

https://lemmy.world/post/32298242

https://lemmy.world/post/32292143

https://lemmy.world/post/32221990

https://lemmy.world/post/32222278

https://lemmy.world/post/32222991

https://lemmy.world/post/32223697

https://lemmy.world/post/32224698

https://lemmy.world/post/32425984

https://lemmy.world/post/31569892

https://lemmy.world/post/31368129

https://lemmy.world/post/31329952

https://lemmy.world/post/31596159

https://lemmy.world/post/30665418

https://lemmy.world/post/30876228

https://lemmy.world/post/31090903

https://lemmy.world/post/31329952

https://lemmy.world/post/31368129

https://lemmy.world/post/29490804

https://lemmy.world/post/29507466

https://lemmy.world/post/29878102

https://lemmy.world/post/29980157

https://lemm.ee/post/65494823

https://lemmy.world/post/28480760

https://lemmy.world/post/28481615

https://lemmy.world/post/28482147

https://lemmy.world/post/28480936

https://lemmy.world/post/28482273

https://lemmy.world/post/28481272

https://lemmy.world/post/28481064

https://lemmy.world/post/27674360

https://lemmy.world/post/27674117

https://lemmy.world/post/27673934

https://lemmy.world/post/27673724

https://lemmy.world/post/27577337

https://lemmy.world/post/27378634

https://lemmy.world/post/27346630

https://lemmy.world/post/27341283

https://lemmy.world/post/27288224

https://lemmy.world/post/27156418

https://lemmy.world/post/27054157

https://lemmy.world/post/27008261

Allowing known propaganda outlets, altered headlines and general misinfo tactics

https://lemmy.world/post/32764202

https://lemmy.world/post/32323822

https://lemmy.world/post/32283425

https://lemmy.world/post/32289824

https://lemmy.world/post/32337368

https://lemmy.world/post/30843744

https://lemmy.world/post/28275465

https://lemmy.world/post/27428838

https://lemmy.world/post/27416097

https://lemmy.world/post/27314050

https://lemmy.world/post/27288953


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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    I always go in and argue with those Tankie fucks when I have time, but I haven’t even seen them in the feeds lately.

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      Active Operators will block know counter propaganda operatives since they know it is a futile exercise.

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        Lmao, nah

        The intention of the exercise is not to appeal to propogandists. It is to inform readers who stumble upon propoganda.

        If what you claimed were true then the offending instances would not ban us for speaking the truth.

  • 🗑️😸@lemm.ee
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    I appreciate this. Id been gone from Lemmy for a bit but just unsubbed from all the .ml groups I had.

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    Haha ok. I would never be happy sitting behind some blockade on the fediverse, unable to even see what others are saying. Its funny that you are so afraid of their opinions that you have to lock yourself in the basement. But you do you. :)

    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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      Yes, “Mao was good actually” is terrifying to me. It’s such a fresh, novel, and revolutionary concept that I feel my mind unraveling every time I see a brave ml warrior post it. Same with “war is bad so Ukraine is bad for defending against invasion.” The sheer intellect required to achieve such a unique understanding of these concepts is truly intimidating.

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      Ignoring the misinformation, support for genocides and authoritarian regimes, no one is afraid of their ‘opinions’.

      It’s just that most .ml users are absolute cancer to discuss with

    • Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works
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      No one is afraid of their opinions. Everyone who has been on the fedi for a while has heard them, over, and over, and over. The mods, and the portion of the users who are grouped in with them, are campists who will defend anything places like China do, even if it is the exact same shit as the western imperialists. They also tend to spout a lot of apologia for harsh, punitive, legal systems, and police states, as long as it calls itself socialist. Hell, don’t even need to do that anymore, just have to be like “hey NATO imperialism bad!” and they will come to defend the honor of a country that is actively annexing, and colonizing, other states, because imperialism is acceptable when it isn’t the west. It is just them defending themselves, and/or liberating oppressed people, just like the US claims every time it bombs somewhere into the dirt. I have witnessed multiple instances of .ml users automatically dismissing any data from any source “western”, while claiming you aren’t capable of having a good faith argument, if you dismiss information from the CCP, in kind.

      I find that the large body of .ml users are not like this, but their mods, and a significant portion of the users, namely the most commonly seen names, are very much this way. There is no argument to be had, there is no fruitful discussion here. They are in their camp, and they can’t seem to truly understand people can hate both camps, and actually not want what either offers. So why interact at this point?

    • cm0002@lemmy.worldOP
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      Haha ok. I would never be happy sitting behind some blockade on the fediverse, unable to even see what others are saying.

      There’s a difference between a veteran Lemming making a conscious choice to “see the other side for themselves” and a tentative-ex-Redditor checking the vibes of a new unknown place.

      Its funny that you are so afraid of their opinions that you have to lock yourself in the basement. But you do you. :)

      Lol, no. I’ve read their opinions, debated them multiple times even, and have come to the conclusion that their “opinions” are as toxic and/or dangerous misinformation as far-right “opinions”. Authoritarianism is authoritarianism whether it’s right or left shaded.

      If anything, I’m afraid of the potential damage it’s doing to the Lemmy-verse.

      Every person that comes here, is another person Reddit has lost and another notch against corporate social media. And that’s a beautiful thing worth protecting IMO

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        100% agree with the last part. But misinformation is fought by having discussions about it, not by censoring it.

        You say you are afraid of the potential damage its doing to the fediverse. Well, now you have removed your voice from the discussions. They will still be there, even if you are not looking at them. You just walked away from it.

        You know when you “protect” kids by not talking about something, it only becomes more exciting to them? I dont know, I rather just talk to the kids about it. Have a laugh about how weird the world is together.

        And I agree, debating them is not really worth doing. But state your opinion and walk away. I have some unpopular opinions too that Lemmy doesnt like. But I keep saying them. Because i still think im right about those things. But im not going to debate for long. Its not worth our time.

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          But state your opinion and walk away. get dogpiled by tankies calling you a western propagandist and then banned.

          Fixed. Seriously just scroll this comm to see what kind of “discussion” they allow.

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            Its understandable that tankies may react that way. But im not a tankie and I think their response leads to complete ignorance about what the world actually is.

            So maybe we shouldnt act like tankies ourselves, being members of the western world, with a more democratic view of what people deserve to have and be?

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              Nah, no civility-pill crap. Allowing an echo chamber so detached from reality to remain connected to the largest instance will only serve to alienate people who don’t fellate a statue of Stalin every morning. If it were possible to actually have nuanced discussion there, I would feel different, but it isn’t, so I don’t.

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    What I wish is that you didn’t need to depend on your instance to block other instances so much, but that it was easier to block comments and posts coming from those instances at a personal level. It is very buggy in some instances. I also wish that when a user that is blocked or banned from an instance or the user of a comment or a post they are replying to, it would indicate so. It isn’t that there is no reply to what they are saying, it’s that we are not bothering with it, and that would make it obvious when it happens.

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      What I wish is that you didn’t need to depend on your instance to block other instances so much, but that it was easier to block comments and posts coming from those instances at a personal level.

      You can block any instance in your account settings, same as communities or users.

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        It really is hilarious. They can’t resist the urge to try and spread their filth outside of their instance, and get laughed at and shit on every single time.

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    I just block every site and user with that ending that I see. I’ve been banned on almost any of their sites anyway.

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    Yay another thread where .ml users will post so I can block them!

    Hopefully we can grow up as a community and defederate completely one day!

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      Do you look down upon journalists? What cm is doing isn’t much different than journalism. They’re collecting evidence, bringing attention to and exposing wrongdoing to the public, just on a smaller platform.

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        depends on which journalist, working for MSMs i wouldnt take thier articles genuine.

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      Lol ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ we all have our hobbies bro, don’t hobby-shame

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    I joined Lemmy in November. By New Years I had independently figured out what was wrong with .ml and its users.

    The less of that garbage, the better.

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    Yeah, blocked hexbear too.

    Those people are absolutely fucking unhinged and do not engage in any sort of good faith argument.

    After one round, I got name called, after round two asking for clarification, I just left.

    Time is precious, the squirrels in my yard are more coherent than these chucklefucks.

    Hell, even two crows would be better

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      they are more or less the same side of coins as conservatives, they even whine and post the same way.

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    cause nobody wants to get dragged into a ten page discussion about why China and Russia are the most democratic countries in the world

    • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I occasionally see people sying this but where does it come from? Afaik Ukraine has as much of a white supremacist problem as Russia, but it is not mainstream or the majority

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        It comes from one of Putin’s justifications for invading Ukraine. One of the “objectives” was to denazify Ukraine. Tankies will point to neo Nazis like the original Azov Battalion fighting for Ukraine as proof Putin was right. Has 0 basis in reality but tankies dont live in reality.

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        Afaik Ukraine has as much of a white supremacist problem as Russia

        Source? Keep in mind I am a non-white Ukrainian who has lived in both Russia and Ukraine and I speak the languages.

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          Both the most veteran and largest battalions for Russia and Ukraine are promninently filled with neo-nazis in their leadership and within their history.

          Azov and Wagner

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            There is broad agreement among observers that at its formation in Spring 2014, the Azov Battalion was associated with Neo-Nazi and far-right ideas, including through the use of symbolism and the political associations and statements of its leaders and cadre.[71][281] However, there is disagreement about the subsequent course of its evolution. Several researchers have stated in the years since that the Battalion’s successors have depoliticized or deradicalized, identifying key landmarks in that process as its November 2014 incorporation into the national guard, a 2017 expulsion of some far right radicals, and Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022

            Don’t lie! You clearly have no fucking clue what you are talking about and your reference to “white supremacy” in Ukraine is more of an attempt to establish a weird aesthetic. I dislike the term, but virtue signalling is an apt description of what you are doing.

            The fact that you think racism in russia Wagner (or even just Azov in Ukraine) shows that you can’t even conceptually evaluate a concept such the prevalence of racism.

            I was in Kyiv during russian siege in Feb 22. Every 100 m there was a military checkpoint on the road by my place. So you are saying I was discriminated against when I passed those checkpoints and I am lying because I “Ukrainian uncle tom”?

            We then left to the west of the country. We had the security services come to our rental apartment (standard procedure to check for saboteurs). So you claim that I am lying when I say my white relatives were far more freaked out by the interview than I was, because well Ukraine is extremely racists and they had harass me in such a situation?

            And the fact that you think racism in russia is limited to Wagner means that you’re saying I never regularly encountered racism from both security services and regular russians (you probably don’t consider racism against Ukrainians to be racism, but that’s what I encountered in addition to be discrimination and harassment because I am not white).

            Honestly, there is an abstract beauty that you are so confident in your ignorance that you had the gall to show me (a non-white Ukrainian who has lived in both russia and Ukraine for many years) Wikipedia articles for Azov and Wagner as your source.

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      well put. and every Marxist-Leninist I’ve met irl has been cool, these pricks are either misrepresenting the entire movement or doing it in the worst, most alienating, factually challenged kind of way.

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      if the opinion is annoying and doesnt provide constructive conversations, opinions almost one-sided anyways and holds bias, i always block them if they become annoying.