First of all, I don’t mean this post as a complaint, maybe more of a warning?

There is teenagers on the fediverse. Most of them don’t share their age, for hopefully obvious reasons. I’d say that a lot of the accounts which do a lot of posting/commenting are run by teenagers — because most adults probably wouldn’t have the time for that much posting.

While the young people of this generation are generally useless when it comes to something more complicated than microsoft word, the people who are good at technology, usually are very good at it.

most of my friends (most of which don’t know the difference between a laptop and a desktop) could understand the fediverse as a concept perfectly when I explained it to them irl.

So, if you’re in a really stupid argument with someone, try to remember that there is a small chance they are 14.

  • Delphia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Listen teens, I’m 40. I was a niteclub bouncer in a town popular with backpackers and partying, I also did a lot of traveling and partying. I was shameless, its a miracle it didnt fall off.

    When you say you fucked my mom, its childish and stupid. When I say it while its not likely its possible… and thats worse.

    • throwaway@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Thats why I made this post. If a teenager is on the fediverse, they will know how to evade a ban.

      • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
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        3 months ago

        Nobody should pretend and nobody should have to li

        Also, nobody should volunteer age info for no reason… Esp under age crowd. Fucking pedos everywhere

    • cm0002@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      To any teens who come across this post, do NOT admit you’re underage or were underage at time of account creation anywhere, anytime for any reason

      It’s like Rule 1 of the internet.

      Sincerely, The kids who grew alongside the internet since the 90s

    • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
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      3 months ago

      And what’s the problem with that?

      Laws don’t currently make a concession for federated social media. If the law in an instance’s jurisdiction says that users on a platform must be of a certain age, then for practical/enforcement purposes it makes no difference if they’re local or federated.

      FWIW, I also ban people under age 18 on my instance (local and federated). Obviously I can’t know everyone’s age, but if someone offers it and I become aware, and it’s below the minimum age set in our policy, then they’re banned until they’re of age - simple as that.

      I’m in the US, so 13 is the minimum age by law for most services (COPPA), and there’s various grumblings to increase the age specifically for social media, so I’m playing it safe with 18 which is the age you’re legally considered an adult.

      Considering some of the stuff that gets posted here (legitimately and via bad actors), then my legal liabilities are less as I’m going out of my way to only serve adults on the platform. Mind you, I’m running this as a hobby / volunteer and do not have a team of lawyers on hand.

            • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
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              3 months ago

              Quoth Article 8:

              1. Where point (a) of Article 6(1) applies, in relation to the offer of information society services directly to a child, the processing of the personal data of a child shall be lawful where the child is at least 16 years old.
                Where the child is below the age of 16 years, such processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that consent is given or authorised by the holder of parental responsibility over the child.
                Member States may provide by law for a lower age for those purposes provided that such lower age is not below 13 years.
              2. The controller shall make reasonable efforts to verify in such cases that consent is given or authorised by the holder of parental responsibility over the child, taking into consideration available technology.
              3. Paragraph 1 shall not affect the general contract law of Member States such as the rules on the validity, formation or effect of a contract in relation to a child.

              The referenced point (a) is in the conditions for data processing to be lawful:

              the data subject has given consent to the processing of his or her personal data for one or more specific purposes;

              In essence: The age of consent is 16 when it comes to your personal data. A completely different question is whether lemm.ee even processes personal data, even more so in a matter that requires consent. Because unless you doxx yourself lemm.ee knows nothing more about you than your IP and, presuming best practices, only keeps limited logs around for strictly technical purposes which don’t need consent. That point (a) is only one condition under which personal data can be processed, there’s also b, c, d, e, and f.

              …not that I’m saying that the legal notice is bad it’s good. It’s overzealous and overcautious going beyond the letter of the law and event intent, reaching into the fabled realms of actually giving a fuck. Like, if the law says “assault is bad” then this notice is saying “please all cuddle, ok?”

            • throwaway@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
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              3 months ago

              From a bit of clicking around, its linked no-where but the footer, so if you’re making an account they don’t tell you to read it. Easy to miss.

    • throwaway@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Pretty much yeah, most people assume that no one under 30 is on fedi because its “hard” to use.

      • ByteMe@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I’m 24 and I’m using it just fine. I’d say that after signing up somewhere and getting an app to login into, the rest is pretty simple and much similar to reddit

      • Lucy :3@feddit.orgEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I’m 19 and assumed that there are at least a few. And with that I’m correct.

      • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
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        3 months ago

        Fedi does screw heavy middle aged and male and US but any one who can handle Linux can figure our how to operate here haha

        Yeah kids might be retarded tech wise now but there is always the nerds who excel at tech so they would naturally end up here

      • Nougat@fedia.io
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        3 months ago

        The assumptions that people make about age boggle my mind. You know that the people who made the internet are all “old” now, right?

        • throwaway@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Yeah, though most people severely underestimate, or overestimate the internets age.

      • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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        3 months ago

        What part of the fediverse is “hard” to use?

        Lemmy is easier to use than the UBB forum I started to become active on at the age of 10 that was the entry point for me being on the Internet at all. Back then we didn’t have Markdown, but BBCode, and I had that figured out after a few weeks.

        I think you’re way underestimating young people.

        • throwaway@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
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          3 months ago

          I am a young person. It made sense once i explained it to them, but they had no idea how to do anything without my help, at first.

        • Today@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          I’m old. I’m not sure what part of lemmy is hard. It’s just sign up, click a few things, download an app if you want. I don’t even have to remember a password. You don’t have to know how to build a car in order to drive.

          Yes, noticed the influx of youngsters recently in the daily posts of ‘how come my boyfriend won’t talk to me’, ‘why are the girls at school so jealous of me’, etc. Also, putting 19/f in the post. What’s that about?

          • cabinet_sanchez@midwest.socialEnglish
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            3 months ago

            I’m also old and I really don’t know what’s going on. You’re mostly right, I’m here reading stuff and it’s working fine for me, but when it comes to federated instances and mastodons, I’m not sure I’ll ever really understand what this IS

        • JayGray91@fedia.io
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          3 months ago

          I started to think it’s because of the result from years of a lot of people being trained and marinated by big tech in siloed opaque social media and website sign ups, where everything is it’s own thing with almost no interconnectedness and communication between each other. So it seems hard when they (me too admittedly) see all this instance thing and federated that.

          Also IMO fediverse has a too nerdy and being infodumped on image to me. That image, at least on the threadiverse side, seems to be toned down and normie-d with recent “campaigns” on reddit though.

          You guys really do need to not be too nerdy lol.

        • Palladiumasteroid@piefed.socialEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Truly hard to use I’d say are hubzilla and its forks. The rest of the Fediverse doesn’t require much knowledge and aren’t as hard as their userbases pretend they are (they aren’t even hard at all)

  • WatDabney@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    I’ve long assumed that many (most?) of the tankies, and of hexbear’s userbase in general, are teens.

  • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
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    3 months ago

    While the young people of this generation are generally useless when it comes to something more complicated than microsoft word, the people who are good at technology, usually are very good at it.

    “Young people bad!” This paragraph has nothing to do with the rest of the post.

  • satans_methpipe@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    While the young people of this generation are generally useless when it comes to something more complicated than microsoft word

    Generalizations and eager bootlicking of generational propaganda isn’t helpful at all.

    • TheFogan@programming.devEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Huge variations. I’d say probably the technologically literate percentages of people is about the same… but tech has allowed the technologically illiterate the ability to use the internet.

    • TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org
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      3 months ago

      At 14, me and most of my peers could navigate a file system on DOS, format floppies, install games from setup disks, and edit autoexec.bat files.

      Yes, there is a huge difference between the teens of today and the teens of 25 years ago. Technological illiteracy is real thanks to the iPhone era and UIs becoming stupid simple to use.

      • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I blame gen x and millennials…we made shit easy from the hard shit we built/had…and once everything was a button press the new generations went all Idiocracy.

      • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Congrats, you lived in a social bubble. As we all do. Your sounds fun, so cherish the memories and don’t pretend your experience is universal.

      • TORFdot0@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        There’s kids today that still do that. And plenty of kids that’s call you a virgin and stuff you in a locker for being able to use a computer without a gui

    • throwaway@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
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      3 months ago

      They are, teenagers (saying this as a teenager) are hopeless. Tech became so easy to use that anything requiring a tiny bit of effort is impossible for these people.

      • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Its the same as its always been. There was always a small subset of the population interested and developing computer sciences. There was never this time where all the youngins knew computers like they did breathing. That was a fallacy.

  • Lemminary@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Some are easy to spot because they don’t understand that being apologetic has little to do with apologizing, for example. 😅

  • recall519@lemm.eeEnglish
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    3 months ago

    I was smarter than the rest of you all when I was a teen. It wasn’t until I became an adult did I get this stupid.

    • SirQuack@feddit.nlEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Hey, fuck you for calling adults stupid. Some of us have been stupid the whole time!

      • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        3 months ago

        No, we’ve definitely gotten dumber as time has gone on. Especially socially; interpersonal skills have basically vanished since I was in high school.