• TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    As much as I absolutely hate PewDiePie with every fiber of my being, this is probably the best thing that could happen to Linux’s mainstream popularity. That dude’s got so many followers that it’ll get a lot of people interested.

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      What’s wrong with PewDiePie? I thought he was a wholesome guy? I haven’t watched him in a while i confess.

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        he did a stream in an SS uniform, he has said the n-word (as an insult) during streams, his earliest content was all about screaming “rape”, and he paid people on fiverr to hold up signs saying “death to jews”. he was never wholesome.

        also there was that shooter in new Zealand.

        however, he did these things because he (perhaps accidentally) cultivated an audience that want it. it was mutual radicalization.

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          also there was that shooter in new Zealand.

          That wasn’t his fault, and as far as I can remember he responded to it pretty well. That said, you’ve mentioned plenty of things about him I’d actually forgotten or didn’t know in the first place, so I’m far from any sort of authority on it.

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            i brought it up because it is indicative. he may not have started out courting nazis, but he developed an audience that tolerated it, and in turn got more extreme himself. mutual radicalization.

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          Yeah I kind of forgot about that. I really don’t think he did it from a place of hate. I think he made dark jokes to stay relavant like many other YouTubers. I think he most likely regrets it.

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              24 hours ago

              still waiting for you to show me that the n-word has different meanings, as per your other comment:

              Demonstrate to us how to use the n-word in one of the ‘other’ contexts where it is not a racial slur.

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            accidentally saying the n-word in a moment of frustration like he says it all the time off-stream and briefly forgot he was on camera is not a dark joke. It’s just using a racial slur naturally and automatically because that’s the kind of person he is. No need to make excuses for him.

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              23 hours ago

              I see that you have very strong feelings regarding the use of that word. Do you really want to put such a strong meaning into a word?

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              Okay, I get what you’re saying. I really do. But have you ever played in a Call of Duty lobby? You can’t play for 20 minutes without hearing it, at least back then. Also Sweden doesn’t have the same history with the n word as we do in the US. I assume it’s not as frowned upon to use there, though probably not appreciated either. He should know that his international audience may not take kindly to it but that’s a seperate issue. Just to clarify, I don’t believe he or any white person should be using the n word.

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                no, it is just as bad because it is in English. the swedish word derived from the Spanish “negro” has different connotations and has historically been used as a descriptor rather than an insult, but we can read american history.

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                24 hours ago

                you’re correct, the n-word was just one of many common and non-loaded casual swears

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                  Again, not what I said. Do you actually want to talk? Or do you want to keep throwing insults my way? I’m not a hateful person and I don’t appreciate your attacks.

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                Yeah you just think that if a white person does use the n-word it’s not such a bad thing. You’ve had several people explain this to you in this thread, and yet here you are, trying to minimize his behaviour.

                I get the feeling you already had your opinion before your first comment, and you’re feigning ignorance to give your continual defence of his actions the appearance of neutrality.

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                  You are being ignorant not the other commenter.

                  Just because you think a word is offending anyone somewhere doesn’t mean that the person who used that exact word intended to be offensive against someone anywhere in the world.

                  The word just has a different meaning to some people.

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                    So what are the “other” meanings of the n-word. Educate me. In fact, use it in a sentence if it’s not a problem. Use the full word in a sentence, without censoring it, right here, in the reply to this comment. See if anyone will agree with you then.

                    Be brave, do it, put your money where your mouth is.

                    Edit: adding a screenshot of your comment, just in case you get cold feet and delete it out of embarrassment :D

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                    24 hours ago

                    Called out, deleted comment. The actions of an innocent man, lol. Crawl back under your rock.

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      Unfortunately Pewdiepie fans in 2025 aren’t the type of person you want more of in any community.