Adam Something is pointing out Russia is falling in to fascism, and campists think that pointing out that the USA is also degenerating into fascism (and Adam recognizing it) is somehow a dunk.

Later on they try to backpedal in the comments after being called out for this whataboutism shit take, by saying that “no of course I don’t defend Russia, but…”

Note: I’m not here to defend Adam Something; but merely to point out that common counter-argument “we never defended Russia” runs kinda shallow when they constantly run interference like that.

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  • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    They’re no different from all the MAGA morons. They’re completely unable to see the world as anything but “Us vs Them”. Either the sportsteam is perfect and can never do wrong (and you love them), or they are vile, contemptible skeletor-wannabes (and you hate them).

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    Whataboutism is basically their go to. Their mind doesn’t understand people actually being capable of critical thinking and being able to criticize both things, they just project their own personality cult belief system.

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      And the mere concept that it might not be two homogeneous groups that are either all good or all bad would probably blow their minds completely.

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        would probably blow their minds completely

        It wouldn’t. Because it can’t possibly enter their minds.

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      Adam had a weird take where he tried to argue not to be afraid of Russia nuclear threats because it would mean their annihilation but wouldn’t be the literal end of the world. For campists this meant that Adam is pro-nuclear-war, because nuance is dead.

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        His point was that it would be worse for russia than for everyone else. Which is a weird take to be sure, because “worse for russia than everyone else” is literally the history of the whole country.

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    Two ducks of different colored feathers remain two ducks. Discovering a second duck doesn’t cause the first one to cease to exist, nor make a fool out of anyone who perceived it as a duck.

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    Love Adam Something. Now that i know that tankies hate him i love him even more ;)

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      I like Adam Something as well… but his latest video unironically ran a 90 second sponsor segment for BetterHelp, the well known scam, ‘connects you to mental health specialists’ app that also illegally sells your confidential health data, and often connects you to ‘professionals’ with no actual qualifications.

      He removed the sponsor segment pretty quickly after people complained, but… that means he doesn’t actually vet his sponsors.

      But at least he did remove it.

      grumble grumble

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        but his latest video unironically ran a 90 second sponsor segment for BetterHelp, the well known scam

        nooo 😭

        But at least he did remove it.

        Yeah, at least he did :/ I don’t watch him or youtube much in general but i was fond of him as a personality. This is kind of disappointing, but enough for me to hate him, i guess. Thanks for telling me about this though :)

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        No, nor are they even very similar. Adam Conover is a serious leftist and a union organiser. Adam Something is quite centrist, and gives off some vague pro-military-industrial-complex vibes. (Even if he does channel those vibes in favour of the right side in the Russo-Ukrainian war.)

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        Adam Something does fun videos where he picks apart techbro innovations and points out that what they are suggesting as new future transport tech is nearly always slower, more expensive, and with less capacity than a train. he has particular distaste for Musk and his projects.

        just like all evolution trends towards crabs, all techbro innovation trends towards trains

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        The only thing I remember he ruined is Dubai, especially with the plumbing and the shit trucks