“nothing really tastes [etc], it’s just your brain’s interpretation”
1 that brain is you
2 the interpretation constitutes the fact that it tastes or whatever, what else could that even mean?
If that’s where that person ends up after “thinking too much”…
“A little learning is a dang’rous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, And drinking largely sobers us again.”
Physicists: spend hundreds of generations empirically proving objective science
Philosophers: yeah, well, that’s just like your opinion, man
Philosophers: It is what it is.
Physicians: We need to be a bit more specific than that. Can we measure it?
Physicist: Who invited the medical doctor? He seems far too invested in applied physics! Who is next, a (retches) engineer?
Shrimp have multiple color recptors because their brains are too primitive/rudimentary to combine input from more than a single receptor into a composite color. The result is that 12 colors (or however many receptors it is) is the total number of colors they can see.
They also see in UV and can see polarized light
and can see polarized light
So can we. It’s also like to point out that seeing polarized light is different from being able to tell that it is polarized. Which we can still do, just not as well
How can I tell when I’m seeing polarized light?
Nice [email protected].
Remember kids that you don’t feel matter; you feel the electrostatic repulsion of electrons that occupy part of the 99+% of empty space of each atom is composed of. The vibrational frequency of those atoms create heat that radiates through that void to be detected by other atoms as more or less heat energy. Over 99% of you is empty space and radiant energy, which means that mathematically you barely even exist.
nothing is real do what you want
This is what they take away from it? Discussing qualia is fascinating, and natural philosophy of the mind in general is an amazing field, but if your takeaway is that nothing exists, your understanding is about as deep as a puddle
We do know how things taste, sound, look, smell, feel, etc because those are all subjective concepts of perception. Without us, the physical phenomena we sense don’t do any of those things.
ITT & OP-C: People without reading habits rediscovering philosophy in the 21st century
It’s just Tumblr being Tumblr: they knew exactly what they were doing, they knew the philosophical concepts already, but the posts must be phrased as some whimsical discovery mixed with internet humor and spontaneity otherwise they do not get reblogged.
That’s always the Tumblr structure and tone. You can’t post an explanation or reference or author, you need to make it sound like some shower thought.
What colors can mantis shrimp even see? Having 16 different cones doesn’t mean anything if they’re all slightly different variations of green, for example.
Edit: Okay, they can see more colors that us. They can see 300 nm to 720 nm and we can see 400 nm to 700 nm.
I think your question was spot on. They have more cones but they seem worse. They also lack our ability to process the stimuli into a rich tapestry of color.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24458639/
Not sure if there’s more current info though.
Just the span of wavelengths isn’t the only thing that’s important, the spectral resolution is also important. For example, theoretically with 6 different cones we would be able to tell the difference between the mixture of red and green wavelengths vs only seeing yellow wavelengths.
Or the mixture of blue and red wavelengths vs violet wavelengths, which just happen to be at the furthest possible point from the red wavelengths. Human color perception is strange.
To make it even crazier while we think of color blindness as a binary thing, it’s really (like most things) a spectrum.
Everyone has a slightly different ratio of cones. And some have a different amount of cones than others. Then there’s the ratio of the different comes to rods.
Take any two random people and they’ll likely agree what name a color is, but they both experience that color slightly differently.
The longest standing argument between myself and my family is about the color of my mother’s very 1950’s bathroom.
They say it’s battleship grey.
They’re wrong. The tile and most of the fixtures are a dull, dusty light blue. Only the marble around the sink is a true grey color, which is why it looks so obviously out of place. The room gives me fits and no one else can see it.
If you’re out to prove a point take pictures of each item zoomed in so it’s just the color in the picture, next holiday you’re all together text them to everyone in a group text and ask them what color each one is.
You may want to do it one by one instead of sending all at once.
There are also the rare tetrachromagraphic people who see 4 colors. Most people have RGB, tetras have an orange receptor.
Yeah, I should have said:
And some have a different amount of types cones than others. Then there’s the ratio of the different comes to rods.
But it’s not really like there’s distinct type of cones, it’s about the wavelength the cones capture based on the angle of the cone.
So while normally theyre: long, medium, or short
They can also be at any point on that scale, and even so far that they’re essentially a new type of cone
But every cone is going to be a little different based on its exact shape and everyone has different ratios. Think of it like snowflakes.
If you measure exact enough, no two people will experience the same color, and you don’t even between your two eyes. It’s just very unlikely to be a noticable difference, and our brains like to do “post processing” stuff to make it similar.
That’s ridiculous. How perspection is fully acceptable as proof of reality. The fact is as our perception is limited we are limited in our knowledge of the reality of thing. Somehow mantis have an access to the reality of things we don’t have and that dog don’t have. And through their sense of hearing dogs have an access to the reality we don’t have.
Imma invent a new image format that just counts all of the photons and their wavelengths
I discovered that what we think is real is only what we perceive and behind that is just an empty void when I had a particularly strong acid trip
Eyedea and Abilities - Powdered Water Too (1)
Give it a listen
omg qualia
omg u genius
I’m getting old and bitter.
We gotta preserve our curiosity and childish naivite. Imagine yourself a professor sharing a beauty of math – the good ones are always as excited to explain it, as the first time they’ve felt it ^^
Now think about the fact that we lock people up based on eyewitness testimony…
