• photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      11 days ago

      What makes you think there’s a trans girl involved? Could just be a femboy. Also, there’s nothing wrong with bi dudes liking trans girls.

      • Literal@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        10 days ago

        Because the idea that a man attracted to trans women could not be straight is transphobic. Trans women are women and a man attracted to women can be straight regardless of whether they’re trans or cis.

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          10 days ago

          I would argue that sexual attraction to a non-op trans woman involves attraction to male genitalia, which by definition and logic extend beyond the label “straight”. A different case would be a man attracted to masculine presenting women (tomboys), or post-op trans women, which would not rule out bisexuality, but be within the defining bounds of straightness.

          Because the visual overlap between non-op trans women and femboys is quite noteworthy, an umbrella term for attraction to both male and female identities such as “bisexual” is appropriate. Denying that is arguably Bi-erasure! I hope you understand my point.

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            10 days ago

            Nah. Even if it’s hetero, it’s probably not straight. Straightness is similar to whiteness; simply a term to say “you’re normal and deserving of respect.” It’s a normal word, not simply a descriptive one.

            Dating a nonbinary person as a binary person is definitionally hetero, but hard to call straight. An agender person and a bigender person would totally be het, but totally not be straight. If it’s not a relationship between 2 monogamous, cishet people assigned opposite sexes at birth, it’s weird and unnatural.

            Bigots can literally gatekeep straightness from a cishet woman dating a cisbi man. It’s like a tainting of her for being with a queer person, even if neither she nor the relationship is queer. It doesn’t matter if they’re monogamous for life; it’s one drop of queerness poisoning their ability to be normal. They’d need to hide his true orientation.

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              10 days ago

              You definitely have a point there, although I would say that any person with interest in cis-hetero relationships only could call themselves straight.

              Mods here deleted my comment, idk why tho. Seems like a classic case of: "bisexuality is le heckerino transphobia!!1!!1!

        • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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          10 days ago

          True, but if a guy doesn’t like male genitalia and the woman is non-op, well, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with him not wanting to have sex with her. That’s his preference and it’s valid.

          • Literal@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            10 days ago

            Not sure what that has to do with what I said. I didn’t suggest anyone should be compelled to have sex with anyone…