I was in 5th grade when my dad told me about the Nuremberg trials and the subsequent Milgram experiments.

Edit Wtf you sick perverts, I was talking about when your parents talk to you about authority bias and how you need to be suspicious of power structures that tell you to do things that you would normally consider horrible acts.

Jesus you can’t talk about Nazis without someone dragging out Sex Ed these days smh

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    UK here. I don’t remember ever getting “the talk” from either parent. There might have been a late attempt that was shut down with “ugh, we learned it all at school already.”

    Those classes, at some point between 9 and 13, might have cleared up a few school-yard rumours, but I’m really not sure what I knew, what I thought I knew, and what I learned (and unlearned) at that time. It might even have been a year-long, once a week class, but it was a very long time ago now. I don’t even remember what the lessons were called, because it wasn’t “sex ed”. Might have been “Health Studies” or something similarly vague.

    As for the subversion of expectation in the OP text, I’m pretty sure we had some lessons on WWII, but I don’t think we got into that much detail before I chose to stop studying History. My parents and grandparents certainly talked about the wars, but that was more about them and people they knew during that time rather than the geopolitical and ethical aspects of things. Perhaps a mention of Nazi propaganda from Lord Haw-Haw being on the radio.

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    Don’t remember the specific age, but it was something in the vein:

    “We gotta talk. You know about the sex stuff?”

    “Yeah, no problem. Got the internet. Already a master or better.”

    “Eyyyyy!”

    “Eyyyyy!”

    And that was it. But seriously, the internet taught me more than biology class, without all the hoops and whistles.

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    I was 12 when my dad gave me the talk (the talk about how police will kill you if you aren’t exceptionally polite to them). How having skin our color is very dangerous because police are afraid of us. So no quick movements.

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    My mom was taking undergrad classes when I was in highschool. She thought it was interesting, and we discussed it.

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    Before the internet made learning about sex easier… grammar school boys thought that when a girl spread her legs her vagina opened up. Grammar school girls were taught to FEAR the penis. It could ruin your life

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    My dad gave me a Hustler magazine at 13 and called it a day. Thank my state government for having sex ed in schools, that shit was wild (but also I had porn on the Internet since 10 so not that wild).

    Edit: to be fair, Hustler magazine has plenty about obedience and authority.

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    I asked him about his novelty “I owe, I owe, so off to work I go” front license plate. We lived in a state that just requires rear plates. I think I was around 8 or 9. That was my first introduction to unearned authority and fucked up nepotistic power hierarchies. He also had a couple good songs about destroying the company store and a few about fortified/bum wines (not an alcoholic himself but grew up around them).

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    Preface: answering the question as you’d expect. OP needs to learn to just say what they mean rather than talk around it and have people guess on the body.

    My mom never did, but was open about it. Although visibly uncomfortable and lacked a lot of basic knowledge, she did her best to be neutral and open.

    My dad got brain damage when I was young and sprouted bull#### on almost every subject.

    At school we had decent sex ed, even if some teachers struggled a bit to keep the class calm. Eventually my interest peaked as it always does: I found a professional online that talks about the subject and followed their explanations and talks, as well as others and other publications.

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    Never.

    My parents at the time were religious conservatives, and authority was expected to be followed. He did say that members of their religious organization had served as Nazis, because they had been drafted by their government, and that it was morally correct for them to have served their country, just as it was morally correct for American members of their church to also serve their country, and for both of these people to try their level best to kill each other at the behest of their respective countries. “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.”

    It wasn’t until I had a nervous breakdown in my very early 20s–due in large part to the extreme cognitive dissonance caused by membership in that religious organization–that I started to seriously question authority.

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      A) thank you for completing the assignment

      B) man that’s rough. That “leaving the cave” moment is something I think (hope) most everyone has sometime in their 20s. It sucks because it hurts, it’s ugly, and at the very least puts strain on our most important relationships. Sometimes it breaks the relationship and we need to find new ones but that is absolutely painful too.

      I hope in your introspection you’ve seen the ways you’ve grown and recognize where the boundaries are to forgive yourself and others, and know what ties were better off cut.

      I’ve been in similar situations and honestly it’s made me more empathetic and patient for anyone I see who seems to be off the path of being empathetic and patient. I hope when you run into someone who is in your footsteps that you treat them how you wish you were treated. ❤️

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        Sometimes it breaks the relationship

        My parents and I had a very strained relationship for a long time. It took them a long time to accept that I had not only left their religion, but had converted to Satanism (the atheistic version). Interestingly, Trump in '16 broke a certain amount of their social conservatism, and may have turned them off to Republican governance entirely, because they saw–for the first time–just how awful the political party they believed in had become. They’re old–both in their 80s–but they’re finally starting to ask some of the fundamental questions about following authority for themselves.

        recognize where the boundaries are to forgive yourself and others

        That’s the tough one, isn’t it? I know that when I was a believer, I said and did some pretty awful shit to other people, shit they absolutely didn’t deserve, because my entire worldview was warped. Sure, it wasn’t my fault I was raised that way, and sure, it’s hard to really question the foundation of your upbringing, but at the same time, I caused real harms even though I didn’t intend to. You can’t change the past; the best you can do it apologize where you can, and try to do better in the future.

        treat them how you wish you were treated.

        I try. And still, even 30 years later, in the heat of them moment, it’s hard to be empathetic. It takes a degree of mindfulness that’s hard. I continue to work on it.

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    Figured it out on my own somehow pretty early… being a Jew in the 80s, people still remembered and it mattered. You knew people with numbers on their arms.

    My son has understood since 1st grade. He watched X-Men 97 and jumped up saying the fascists attacking mutants were like Nazis and the Holocaust.

    We talk about our family military history on both sides of the family, and their roles in WW2. I’m very proud to be an American taught to abhor injustice, and see it in my son’s nature.

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    Why is OP shaming sex education?

    The lack of proper sex education and making kids feel embarrassed about themselves is one of the main reasons why we have so many issues about sexuality and awareness. Not to mention unwanted pregnancies and STI’s.

    Next he’s going to say that Albert Speer deserved more leniency for testifying because his testimony made it easier to convict the others.

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      There is a 👏 time 👏 and 👏 place 👏

      The current time is 1946 and the place is Nuremberg. I’m sorry that we didn’t show Goebbels where the clit was back then, WE HAD PRIORITIES.

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        “If Simon Wiesenthal can hunt for Nazis, I can hunt for clits!”

        -Joseph Goebbels, probably

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    Quantum mechanics and all variations of analytical calculus were banned in my house growing up. I had to discover these things on my own by questioning the reality I experience with the errors in classical calculations I had been taught to make.