• DrownedRats@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Good work ethic is when you spend every waking moment working instead of spending time with your family, yourself, your pets, your friends, doing self care, cooking for yourself and/or family.

    Sounds like a jolly old life that doesn’t it? Sure would love to do that every day until I die.

    This guy is a certified nutjob.

  • ceiphas@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    i start working at 6:30 and work till 16:30 so i can see my children before they go to bed.

    i’m just a burden for my company, right?

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    Having worked in various countries of Europe with various different work cultures, I can guarantee you that at least in Software Development the productivity of working more than 8h a day regularly (you can get away with doing it for a week or two, but no further) is so much less than in with 8h/day or less, that you’re literally producing less results with your work in a whole long-hours day of work than you do in an 8h day.

    In simple terms, tired people do negative work and people working long hours regularly end up chronically tired.

    Maybe it works differently for people doing stuff that’s all about salesmanship (like Business Angel) for whom more hours means more “meets”, but in my personal experience it definitelly works as I described for people actually doing heavy thinking work that has to actually work rather than merelly doing talkie-talkie with hard to compare results and where efficiency is near impossible to measure.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      I work in IT support, which is basically the next pond over from development. Because the job is so mentally intensive, if I’m working on complex tasks for more than 4-5 hours, my brain is catatonic by the time I hit the end of my shift.

      Mental effort, is still effort. Most of the time you can’t see that someone is mentally tired, but it is just as debilitating as being physically exhausted.

      I can not do my job while mentally exhausted. One screw up from me, and I have the ability to, entirely by accident, take out an entire organizations ability to do useful work.

      Some of my clients, I’ve seen log into the system at 8AM or earlier, and still be online after midnight. I don’t understand how they’re getting anything useful done by that time.

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      I understood that when once we decided to stay longer and worked for 12h one day, and then spent the next morning un-fucking what we screwed up during those extra hours.

      Or when I spent an hour debugging something late in the day, only to come in the morning and find the problem in 15 mins. At least in software development, effectiveness dramatically drops when you’re tired and it’s really not worth it killing yourself to do something 2h faster.

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    Odds on he went into the office at 18:30 to take a photo of how empty it was so he post on LinkedIn about what a grinder he is.

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      I mean does anybody other than blowhards full of nothing but air use or care a out LinkedIn? The last job they tried to push on me was working in a local five and dime in the city centre mall. Not disrespectinf the fine people who work there, but how do my master in thermodynamics and 20 years of experience with explosives fit in there?

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    I would feel so sad for these people, if they weren’t trying to make everyone else’s lives worse.

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    Sounds like my man needs to get off LinkedIn. Who tf “loves to talk and post about the hustle” in real life ?

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      This is an especially stupid post coming from a guy working in Germany. As far as I know, they see leaving work early as a good thing because you were so productive you didn’t need an entire day of work to complete your tasks

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    It really gets me that “working hard” to increase capital is baked in as one of the strongest morals of our society.

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      The whole “work hard” being a moral dictum really depends on the country.

      I’ve worked in Portugal, Britain and The Netherlands for about a decade each and whilst the Brits have the “work hard” not just in the sense of long hours but also the bloody slogan and moral commandment, and the Portuguese too have the long hours but “work hard” really doesn’t add up to a moral commandment, the Dutch have neither and in fact it’s considered a bad thing if people are still at the office after 6 PM (many even come in earlier to leave at 4.30 PM) to the point that a manager is considered a bad manager if their people are still there at that hour (because it means they didn’t plan the project properly), quite the opposite of the other two countries were the “bumms on seats” after 6PM are seen as a good think.

      Interestingly, of all 3, the Dutch are the most productive, by far - you do a lot more in term of actual results delivered in 8h/day in The Netherlands than you do in 10-12h/day in Portugal or Britain.

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        I agree with the Dutch. 99% of the time ive had to work late/extra it’s because the project manager wasn’t doing their job and panicked at the last second.

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      My favorite part is when all these “hard workers” are actually just spending 12 hours/day at the office bullshitting and slacking off