Harris and the Biden administration have displayed unconditional support for Israel and its far right leaders.

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    If only she had Murdered a Palestinian Child on Live TV THEN she might have Won even though Anti Genocide Candidates did BETTER then her!

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      Pro genocide candidates did better too. State wide elections often have little correlation to national elections. District elections even less. Both are far easier than national elections too.

      No anti genocide candidate did better in the national election. And there’s no evidence implying they would have.

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          Yes and I specifically said that local and national elections are not analogous. You cannot take something that would work in a local election and expected to work exactly the same at a national election. It’s a fallacy. And you are arguing a straw man.

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            It’s not always the case, but it was during this election season. This season was dominated with single-issue voters, and all of those issues were national not local.

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              Do you have any proof of that claim? I mean other than you claiming it. Because I can guarantee you where I live almost no one gave a s*** about it. Which I’m not happy about it. But it’s come to be expected with the amount of lead poisoning this state has. It played wildly different from state to state and had no clear discernible National influence. The biggest thing that seemed to motivate the outcome of this. Was racism and apathy.

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                  They’re different state to state. It’s not universally applicable that is the point that is what I’m getting at. Stuff that was important for Palestinian populations in Dearborn michigan. Is not going to be remotely the same as what is important to the yokels in Joplin missouri. There is no Universal appeal or play to it unfortunately. Apparently a lot of people really don’t have a problem with it. And didn’t really care about it one way or the others. It wasn’t a universal thing that impacted all populations equally. Missouri for instance did the most Missouri thing possible. And voted to legalize abortion again. While electing the president that will ban it nationally. It had nothing to do with Palestine or anything going on over there at all. Missourians do this all the time. They voted to have funding controls on political campaigns to reduce the impact of dark money. And the very next election repealed it.

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    She got it from both sides. Israel says not enough and critics said she’s practically invading Gaza herself. A no-win scenario which is yet another thing that happens when no one can agree on basic facts anymore.

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      At almost any point in the past year, the Biden admin could have ended this conflict overnight by withholding weapons. Kamala stating outright that an arms embargo was off the table, and also saying the worst tragedy in the past year was Oct 7th among other things, those all signal very much that she may as well have invaded Gaza herself.

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    None of this matters now. Things just got even worse for Gaza.

    Despite the Democrats’ total fealty to Israel…

    Wow. Just wait then. If people thought Biden and Harris were hawks…

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        Link me a source to “extermination camps” Israel is guilty of war crimes, imo, but I haven’t seen evidence of extermination camps. Where are you getting that?

        I don’t see how things get much worse…

        Ok. You will see.

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            Great show of empathy for Palestinians.

            People like you can barely keep that mask on, luckily nobody here believes you actually support Palestine.

            You’re just another Zionist lackey with an “empathy” mask.

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          I’m sure the Palestinians are so thankful the adults in the room AKA Biden administration are having very firm words with Mr Netanyahu, allegedly even calling him a “big meanie head!” on the phone, while giving him unlimited weapons to commit genocide. How exactly is Trump supposed to actually differ here? Please enlighten me oh wise one.

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            Having US Marines do it instead, drumming out anyone that refuses the order, and completing the US military’s transition to a Christo-fascist organization.

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              lol. as comically stupid as trump is, it’s pretty obvious he recognizes that americans are tired of being ensnared in wars that have nothing to do with them. he isn’t going to send US marines to go commit genocide for Israel when the IDF is perfectly capable. try again.

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                  Incredible discourse, LIB “Anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a conservative.”

                  Show me one instance where Trump has ever suggested sending US marines on the ground in any foreign conflict. On the other hand, he’s on numerous occasion said he opposes forever wars, and spending US money funding other country’s militaries, and overall is just pretty isolationist. We saw this during his first term, if you recall. So what, you’re just making shit up based on your own personal vibes?

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            How exactly is Trump supposed to actually differ here? Please enlighten me oh wise one.

            I don’t pretend to know the details of Trump’s racist old brain or his plans. I do know he loves Israel and loves bombs even more. Your comment is naive.

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          We will indeed need to wait two months. Because Joe Biden is the president right now and he can stop the genocide right now if he so wishes.

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    This is what the fascists on Fox News were saying on election night. Garbage rhetoric and completely untrue. It does show you that it didn’t matter how much of a war-hawk Kamala tried to present herself as, those opposed to her would see her as not being sufficiently bloodthirsty. All it was good for was alienating her natural base.