Many users use an e-mail trick to avoid creating a Microsoft account. This has now apparently been stopped by Microsoft.
  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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    4 months ago

    lack of local accounting means its no longer your operating system, youre now using a perpetually required service from microsoft.

    the walled garden is putting the last bricks in place. hope all you windows fans are …happy… asking apple microsoft for permission to use your own hardware.

      • tektite@slrpnk.net
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        4 months ago

        But apparently you DO need an Apple ID to access an Apple Notes file that was shared to your Android by your crazy ex who doesn’t know that without an iPhone you won’t be able to read their undoubtedly unhinged, rambling guilt trip. Thanks Apple!

      • Onihikage@beehaw.orgEnglish
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        4 months ago

        I switched to Bazzite not long after the Recall AI announcement, shrinking my Windows partition to leave it for just VR stuff which currently doesn’t work well outside of Windows, at least on my system. It’s pretty great! Not perfect, but the problems I have on Bazzite are similar enough in quantity and degree to problems I had on Windows that I’ve basically switched out one set of weird OS quirks for another. The big difference is now I don’t have to think about the OS being disrespectful corporate spyware.

    • helenslunch@feddit.nl
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      4 months ago

      hope all you windows fans are …happy… asking apple microsoft for permission to use your own hardware.

      It’s been this way for decades, really. Apple, Google, MS, etc. Even if they let you use it without an account, they’ll literally never stop pressuring you and annoying you into signing into an account.

      • psvrh@lemmy.ca
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        4 months ago

        Apple doesn’t actually make it at all difficult to use a Mac or iOS device without an Apple account. You’re asked once during setup and that’s it. At most there’ll be a red dot in Settings>iCloud.

        • helenslunch@feddit.nl
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          4 months ago

          They do, actually. There’s a bunch of first party software you can’t remove, perpetual notifications you can’t clear about setting up iCloud, etc.

          • psvrh@lemmy.ca
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            4 months ago

            There’s one notice, and it’s in the System Settings app. And it’s a little red dot beside the iCloud section. That’s not really the same league as what Microsoft is doing, or Even Google’s nag to use Chrome across all their Web properties.

            You’re right about the first-party apps that you can’t remove, but it’s also not the same as, eg, Edge where those apps are used constantly and your preferences are reset on every update.

            On my Mac I set my browser to Firefox in 2018. It’s never reverted to Safari, not once, where Windows really wants me to use Edge and goes so far as to not just reset it periodically, but also direct start menu searches and in-app web links to an ms-edge: url instead of using the http handler.

            Apple has problems, but this isn’t one of them.

  • entropicshart@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    I’ve been debating for a while to switch windows to Linux and see how well it works for my games, thanks Microsoft for finally pushing me to do it!

    Only thing keeping me on windows has been games (all other development use is far easier on Linux); but with the work that happened with Steam Deck, many games are now fully functional on Linux.

  • REdOG@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 months ago

    Use shift f10 and edit the registry… They aren’t disabling that until they have a better solution for autopilot.

    May not work for home editions…

  • ofcourse@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Wouldn’t it be possible to buy a new PC, open the box, and return it right after because you cannot set it up without internet?

    If enough people do it, may be PC manufacturers will force Microsoft to add offline setups.

    • SecureTaco@lemmy.asc6.orgEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Funny you say that, setting it up without internet is one of the few ways left to still be able to create a local account.

      • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        4 months ago

        There’s no clear path from getting the computer out of the box just setting it up without internet. If you call the manufacturer and they know what the hell they’re doing they’ll walk you through doing the OOBE no internet fix. It just needs to be an option in the damn operating system. The fact that they’re hiding it from you is unconscionable.

      • ofcourse@lemmy.ml
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        4 months ago

        If I understand correctly from the article, you have to enter ‘OOBE\BYPASSNRO’ in command prompt during installation to prevent it from asking to connect to internet. If that’s the only way to set up a local account, that’s hardly an accessible option.