you support the concentration camps?
Do concentration camps let people go home on the weekend? You fucking idiot. The education centers (which no longer exist) were a 5 day weekday program. Attendees returned home on weekends.
Stop getting your information from the fucking cia’s literal propaganda outlets dipshit.
This image is over 3 years old mate. The last of these centers was closed in 2023. You got anything that isn’t horrendously out of date or are you still scraping the barrel of the media produced by the reeducation program that only lasted 1 year before all centers were closed?
EDIT: Lmaoooo source is Adrian Zenz’s twitter account lololololol it’s genuinely fucking hilarious that it takes 2 seconds to discover CIA funded propaganda is the primary source of your brainworms
Anyway, the facilities that made up this program completely deradicalised a region that was receiving islamic extremist terrorist attacks every week which would kill 10-30 people in each attack. They achieved this without killing one single person and without permanently imprisoning anyone. The western approach would have been to bomb them into oblivion. Which approach is obviously better?
Apt way to describe it. They’re telling ghost stories. Tall tales under a upward pointed flashlight.
I genuinely wouldn’t come back after this burn holy shit
I have 4 channels I don’t use that have basically no content on them but are a decade old. Why do you think this shit matters?
At any point in time I might turn them into channels for any kind of content, you will only scream that it’s propaganda if the content I start producing is about China though because you’re a racist. If it’s any other subject that suddenly appears on a 10 year old account you just won’t care.
You think everything is something sinister instead of considering the fact that it’s almost certainly not. Almost anyone here might do the same with old accounts they have, why is that a problem?
Sounds like he’s receiving gifts in return for positive Chinese propaganda.
lmao why the fuck do you think this is necessary when there’s literally hundreds of thousands of marxists who believe in the communist future that would do it for free? You don’t seem to understand communists at all.
Hexbear’s long march is over
Pedophile will expand into LGBT people = Pedophiles real easily. They won’t even say they’re targeting lgbt people, they’ll just shout child groomer.
China is super xenophobic
This is really really not true. Anyone that has actually visited China or engages regularly with Chinese people knows it’s not really true. It’s the kind of shit people who don’t question anything see in a reddit comment and then accept as fact because it confirms racist biases you already have that you’ve not had questioned or self-examined within yourself.
You should question this. You should re-examine this view. You should self-crit. You’re talking about the largest marxist country in the world, where marx is taught in schools and universities, where a marxist-leninist party leads, and where the established ideology of internationalism continues to progress. It’s just so utterly out of touch with what China actually is.
Hexbear existed 2 years before everything else? Fucking wild. This loser’s account is literally 3 years younger than my hexbear account and 2.5 years younger than my Lemmy.ml one and he thinks we’re the late ones?
The only “ruining” I’m doing here is ruining his bullshit fuckoff attempt to associate lgbt and gender with being a corporate thing, it’s fucking nonsensical. Dude deserves to lose teeth.
If you think I would read this shit after that first sentence you’re a fucking idiot, on top of being a supporter and legitimiser of a genocide.
This is an absolutely garbage take. “Anonymous” defaults to male in everyone’s mind because patriarchy is the basis of our society. Claiming everyone should just be “Anonymous” is a male supremacist and exclusionary of everything else position to take.
This chart concerns me. Are you saying that “being masculine” and “being feminine” are biological? Not just gender? Can you define “being masculine” and “being feminine” without being gender-essentialist?
I’m veering off a bit, because we weren’t talking about masculinity or femininity at all a moment ago, but these are 100% socially created things and to argue about them from a biological perspective requires being a gender-essentialist.
If not, I would err away from “masculine” and “feminine” as descriptors of gender itself.
I keep saying I do and you keep saying I don’t.
I don’t know what part of this youis being misunderstood so I’m trying to simplify and make clear.
People with NO gender are not the same as people who are genderfluid or non-binary or binary.
If your position is that gender is biologically intrinsic, you are absolutely excluding people with the absence of gender.
If you still believe those people are trans, but do not believe their interpretation is correct, then you do not believe their stated lack of gender.
These are roughly the things I’m trying to get across here. This is where the contradiction I am raising lies.
Yes. You did. When you reworded your “I believe all trans people” to “believe all trans people are trans” you did that explicitly because you were highlighting believing them on the trans part but not on the rest.
If you don’t believe that they are not genderfluid, or that they are genderless (because you believe that gender is biologically intrinsic), then you do not believe their stated gender.
You believe they’re trans but don’t believe their stated gender? So you want? Secretly misgender them inside your head?
I’m being intentionally uncharitable here because I don’t think you’ve examined this and really think you should. I do not think you’re a bad person, just that you haven’t yet examined these contradictions.
What I’m telling you is that you’re stating things that are incompatible views.
You can’t “believe all trans people” while explicitly saying that you disagree with trans people who say they have no gender, or trans people that say they are not gender fluid and very much feel like they can and have changed gender at a later point in life.
These are not compatible things. One of these things MUST be untrue.
You want to by hyper-inclusive and nice to all people, I get that you don’t want to exclude people which is why you are saying “I believe all trans people” (because you’re not a bad person). But at the same time you are stating a position that is not open to a certain position, largely for good reasons, you are defensive about how it could be used to harm us and have a naturally protective reaction that wants to reject the very idea of it because of the danger it also opens us up to. This has explicitly been the only reason you’ve presented for opposing it “this could be used to argue in favour of conversion therapy” - purely a position taken from a trans activism perspective. What I am trying to get at is that you shouldn’t approach this from the trans activism position but rather than from a philosophical perspective analysing gender.
Doing a “I don’t wanna talk to you anymore” doesn’t make any of the things I’ve pointed out here any less true. You can’t hold incompatible positions simultaneously. They need to be more deeply examined.
You can’t “believe all trans people” while also not believing the trans people who say their experience is not gender fluidity but an actual mid-life change in gender.
Ultimately you can only be one or the other.
As for those people without dysphoria, several of them will openly say they think they can choose one or the other, but prefer one, but don’t think this is the same as gender fluidity. Are they wrong?
“I believe all trans people” while having a biological gender essentialist belief is not possible.
I am seriously interested in gender abolitionist takes that aren’t just abolishing the strict roles/styles/behaviors affiliated with gender. I don’t think you can provide this
This is the basis for literally all cyberpunk and transhumanist takes on gender as the elimination of biological limitations turns the entire of sexuality into something of an avatar swap. If you’ve spent any time in VR, where some insight into behaviours of people and culture has played out, you start to get a sense for where this could go. What gender is that person with the smoke avatar? No gender. Which, for the record here, is a gender that a lot of people say they already are, which does not at all fit into the gender biological essentialism. You NEED to exclude people who say they have no gender at all (not non-binary, those with explicitly no gender) in order to fit this concept together.
Frankly, I’m kind of growing tired of discussing trans issues with cis people
I am not cis. Not sure why you’ve decided this, fucking disgusting response and the reason I waited days to bother responding to this tbh. The way this part of your response makes me feel is unlikely to ever go away when I see you elsewhere on this site, wtf were you thinking.
I believe all trans people.
I want to say, once again, that this is a platitude. It does not fit into the view that you’re taking. You genuinely can’t believe all trans people while having this view.
This reasoning errs much too close to bio-essentialism for me, it’s the same line of thinking that leads people to “you have to have dysphoria or you’re not trans”.
The “Xinjiang government” is the Communist Party dipshit. Xinjiang is in China.
These pictures are from the CIA. They were posted by Adrian Zenz, he is extremely well known to us. He is a lunatic crank that works for Victims of Communism, which is a CIA outlet that does not hide the fact it was founded by and is funded by the CIA.
Do you have a literacy problem? I have already explained this once already. Did you not understand this information the first time I stated it?