Will it be effective?

EDIT: The banning event continues. Please consult the modlog to observe.

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&modId=7121342

If you scroll down to about a day ago, you might be able to observe an emerging behavior from this mod.

EDIT 2: The mod in question moderates a total of 108 Lemmy communities. How deep does this conspiracy run? Is this mod a lost Redditor? More to come!

EDIT 3: The mod has now removed my comment all together, one might assume because it was still receiving upvotes in the 2 hours following my ban. Are there similarities here to Watergate? You be the judge!

    • YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Well yeah if seeing vegan content upsets you enough to break their rule 5 then it is not a good community for you. And that is ok, honestly I get grief in real life about me trying to be vegan. Having place amongst other vegans and people not anti-vegan is nice. I also don’t know the context being the post so if there is something I’m missing feel free to tell me.

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        I personally believe this particular mod may be abusing the community’s rule 5, stretching it to suit their agenda. But I’ll leave the interpretation up to you.

        Note that others are reporting being banned by simply downvoting community posts. Suggesting further overreach.

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          Users cannot vote in a community that has banned them. If the mod wants to restrict voting only to people who vote in good faith, that’s their prerogative. It’s probably a good idea, it prevents downvote spam from bots and the like. When you have a community that has very different values from /all, maybe kicking the /all people who vote against the sub’s values out is good. Voting is participation.

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            Shining transparency on these values and modding decisions to the attention of the fediverse then serves the greater good.

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              It does. You’ve opened the conversation about voting as participation and helped us reach some new ideas on moderation practice. It’s dialectics. As I said in another comment in this thread, I think the existence of posts like this is good even if this ban wasn’t a problem.

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            When some of those mods are perfectly fine with lgbtq persecution, and make it out like vegans have it worse, or dont care because they wouldn’t have to see it personally…

            I’m just going to go ahead and consider it a toxic shithole. Worst part? Different mod, but they seem to be all over the same vegan communities, so none of them become worthwhile.

            I personally don’t care if they ban me since I’ve blocked the communities anyway. Just unfortunate as I really enjoy seeing some of the recipes, as there are a decent number of them that are gluten free (which I need to be).

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                I’ll have to unblock, so I can do that later on, sure. Working so not paying much attention to Lemmy at the moment.

                Edit: Sorry, my mistake, not a mod. An admin on the instance you recommend / link to in the side bar.

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                Well, spoke to soon. I was banned for being ‘uncivil’ on the .world vegan community for calling out this same behavior, and hoping the community ended up somewhere other than on that particular instance.

                Sooo… yeah I’m keeping the block. Maybe expanding to some mods there would be sensible.

                Edit: There, all set now.

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          I forgot Lemmy lets you see who downvoted and upvoted. Idk why that is happening. I thought the brigade was about comments.

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            I’ll be one to admit my own comment was a bit cheeky. I had honestly never really noticed the [email protected] in my All feed until today, when this particular mod started posting a great deal of really poorly formatted memes. My cheeky comment was my only ever comment in the community.

            I can’t speak to any actual brigading, as the community normally isn’t worth my time, which is very, very important to me.

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              Not just poorly formatted…they were full of insults.

              Theory: the posts are bait so Beaver can feel powerful banning people.

              I’m on a (admittedly slow), slide towards vegetarianism so I’m obviously pro-vegan…but apparently I got banned two days ago for rule 5

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        Fwiw, anyone giving you grief irl is a jerk, unless you’re trying to convert them.

        Away from the internet, I know a good handful of vegans that I gladly cook for. Not regions everyone hates y’all for living your beliefs.

        And, just for full disclosure, I troll vegans online. That’s where most of the jerks that are vegan do their thing, not irl.

        Me and you, if life threw us together, I’d make you my vegan chili, and we’d chill. But I’d still troll you online if you did the usual online stuff that gets vegans painted as crazy.

        Which is my best effort at saying that that’s probably what you’re missing. Even people like me that have no problems with the precepts of veganism per se, we can get tired of the vegans that take things too far, and then the entire belief system gets colored by that brush. It creates a general fatigue, then a general stereotype, and that turns into assholes going to vegan spaces and being assholes (as opposed to only doing it in other spaces). That in turn makes militant vegans go on the warpath, and you get stuff like this drama lol

        It’s a cycle of annoyance and limited perception. That cycle attracts the worst elements of humanity

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          Thank you for posting this. I know now that it was because of voting which is ehh not as bad as I thought. But yeah IRL my family and partner aren’t very supportive, I’ve been trying to ignore their comments. It’s just hard sometimes, like just last night my partner said they felt sorry for me during dinner because I didn’t have meat in my meal. I think that’s probably why some vegans become more aggressive online as well as the cycle going on. Idk I just like reading articles and seeing recipes. When I first went vegan my dad tried getting my whole family to convince me to eat meat again. I love my dad but that sucked. I also love my partner and they are otherwise fine, but they seem to have a problem and are adjusting to my new diet. I can understand the fatigue a vegan may go through, but banning people for voting isn’t exactly what I had in mind as their rule 5.

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        I got banned (rule 5) for downvoting a meme with misleading information. I’m not vegan, but I like the idea in general so I did enjoy seeing content. But things have gone off the rails recently.

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          Hi there. Things escalated really out of control due to a rogue mod, but the situation has since been resolved, and things should be back to normal.

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          I’d say not just recently. They’ve stepped it up after the big drama but been at it for a while.

          Oh, but the “why do you hate veganism huh??” memes continue. Yeah, it’s definitely the veganism I can’t stand and not the fan club!

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          This is entirely a mod issue. I’m vegan, and they need to be removed. They are ruining the image of the community so that people like OP start pushing for everyone to block it. If that isn’t ruining the prospects of our cause, then I don’t know what is.