This person is a ben shapiro jordan peterson loving groyper, who claims all problems with the west are due to some cultural degredation (???).

He once claimed the only way to “assimilate” black people was to police them more… So i desperately tried to explain why black people commit more crimes, not due to some abstract cultural difference between white people and black people, but because they live in absolute poverty, desolation, and often literally have no other choice.

I really tried to convince him that this is false, pointing out how western countries couped and invaded countries, and that that is diametrically opposed to our supposed “white”, christian culture. He would follow up with the claim that we were just spreading democracy… i would respond to him with the fact that nearly all the regimes that were put into power were fascistic and autocratic. He would then respond to that with “we tried to force democracy onto them, they weren’t ready”.

There’s still hope for this gremlin though, because i got him to watch Parenti in exchange for me reading Jordan Peterson shit. Maybe parenti will bring this goblin into the light. After all, crazier things have happened

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    So i desperately tried to explain why black people commit more crimes

    I’m almost black people commit crime at relatively the same rate as other racial groups.

    not due to some abstract cultural difference between white people and black people, but because they live in absolute poverty, desolation, and often literally have no other choice.

    This only loosely explains why black people are more likely to be charged with certain types of crime.

    The reason black people make up a larger percentage of the US prison population and are more likely to be charged with crimes in the first place is because police target black people. This is a systemic and ubiquitous phenomenon in police departments. Many factors contribute to more convictions for black people, but next time you might want to lean into how black neighborhoods and towns are over-policed.

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      Precisely - same/similar percentage of crimes committed across the race of people, but 4x the incarceration rate of blacks compared to whites because police target them.

      In terms of raw number of crimes, whites commit far greater numbers (because there are more white people in the population). If the system were fair and just, you’d see that reflected in the incarceration rate. Since it’s far biased to the opposite, this instead confirms institutionalized racism is alive and well in America.

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      Also most laws exist in a way so you’re always breaking at least one if a cop wanted to be a prick, or enforce racial violence on minorities, for example