Asking as it seems nobody wants one based on the reception of the Pixel 9

  • Steve@lemmy.today
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    1 month ago

    From my (small) friends circle, I haven’t heard any of them talk about getting one. However, it’s worth noting that these friends of mine are also not the ones who would buy new smartphones every year. They typically hold onto their phones for a few years and only switch when it seems like the phone isn’t performing as expected (e.g. battery draining too quickly; slowness in software actions; to name a few).

    One question I do have is, what happens if you clean install an AOSP like GrapheneOS onto these newer Pixels phones? Does that remove the AI features completely?

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    1 month ago

    Nope. It’s getting to the point I don’t even want a smartphone anymore. In fact, I just bought a “dumb” phone and am going to try using that as my daily driver for a month and see how it goes. Should be delivered this afternoon, and I’ll be starting the experiment tomorrow, hopefully.

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    1 month ago

    Why can’t they use AI for something useful like better commands when using hands free while driving. They have all these gimmicks yet it cannot play a specific music playlist on spotify on shuffle without a very specific word for word command

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    1 month ago

    No, i use a custom rom for most of my phones, so the ai bs is worthless to me. I’d rather just but a 6 or 7 for a cheaper price than an 8 or 9 for a higher price without any significant hardware upgrades.

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        1 month ago

        So what? Every laptop has a gpu do you call them gpu laptops? Modern CPUs/SOCs accelerate a lot of things, this is just one more.

        Nvidia called the ray tracing gpus RTX. Now all of them has that chip, all of them are called RTX. Same will happen here, in 5 years every cpu will be “AI” and no one will call it that way

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        1 month ago

        True, they have some interesting features. But at least if they use Windows ML, these apps can run on any hardware. The only difference is the performance that can be achieved.

        They said something in the video you linked that the developers could use a larger model thanks to the performance of the Snapdragon Chip. And with Davinci, they said that the performance with NPU is better than with GPU.

        What I’m trying to say is that these things are not a new invention of 2024. NPUs were introduced at least 7 years ago (for ARM CPUs). The Microsoft APIs have been there for three years. The only new thing is the marketing hype around AI.

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    1 month ago

    i just want a phone that constantly spies on me and sends recordings back to mama cloud….

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    1 month ago

    I would if I’d be able to run my own models, it’d be better than having to connect to my server.
    But AFAIK these features won’t be available to all developers, so I’m guessing only Google apps will be able to properly use the potential of the phone.

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      1 month ago

      The P9 is supposed to have an on-device image gen model that was touted as being able to be used even without an internet connection

      Stock-wise you’re stuck with whatever model Google ships it with, but I’m curious to see what happens when they get out in the wild and rooted. With some luck, the model is stored within Android somewhere (as in not on a special chip or something, which I don’t think it is because I saw a video of its demonstration and they had to download and install the model for the initial setup) and might be able to be swapped out/tinkered with with root. Though that’s probably going to take months or longer depending on how it’s configured/protected

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    1 month ago

    Part of the problem is the Pixel phone, I mean that’s been a problem ever since it came out. Sometimes it’s alright but there’s a lot of people that have bought a Pixel & regretted it. My brother in law being one of many. I can say with relative confidence, Google Pixel phones have had so many problems & lack of support, I’m sure everybody reading this knows somebody with Google Pixel buyer’s remorse. Or maybe they are that person.

    This is a well-earned reputation. So yeah I can believe people aren’t jumping at the P9.

    The AI part is just another reason to not buy a Google Pixel phone.

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      I like my Pixel 8 just fine, but I turned Gemini off the minute Google tried to foist it on me. I am also considering just installing Graphene OS instead, which Pixels are pretty good for.

  • we_avoid_temptation@lemmy.zip
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    1 month ago

    Not now. Maybe it’ll be useful once the bubble bursts and a few actually decent uses for something that could actually run on a phone emerge from the rubble and actually work.

    At the moment I’m not seeing a whole lot overall that actually works unless you’re an expert using it for science or something like that.

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    I don’t want an AI phone specifically, but its inclusion is not a deal breaker. I’m in it for the Foldy phones, even though they’re changing the screen sizes compared to the 0G fold, it’s still leagues better than Samshits Foldy offering and those are my only options here in the states

    The demos of the Gemini AI seem somewhat useful, but only if it actually works right most of the time

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    I want a phone that doesn’t blast telemetry everywhere eating my battery. I want a phone that lasts a week between charges. I also want (most) apps to go away and stick to the web so my browser can keep me safe from them.

    My favorite e-commerce experience has been at breweries and comedy clubs. Scan QR code, order on web page. Receive SMS to get back to page. Pay on page when done, close tab. Our exchange of information has completed. Maybe they send an email later, maybe not.

    Versus apps tracking the status of your colon 24/7.

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    1 month ago

    Want it or not, you’re gonna get it. The industry is going balls deep with it and I doubt AI phones are even the tip of the iceberg. They’re gonna use the shit in everything.

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      1 month ago

      The hardware industry wants to sell new devices. Most software companies just upload your data to the cloud and to the AI magic there (e.g. ChatGPT, Bing Image creator).

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    1 month ago

    Not if I have to give up my privacy to use the AI features, which is currently the case for all or these devices.

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    1 month ago

    I for one would like a local AI assistant of some sort, but I’d also want to be in full control of which of my files, correspondences, locations, contacts, purchases and sex-toys the assistant is aware of on an item to item basis.

    Of course that’s not going to happen because fuck my privacy.

    Instead we’re going to be forcefed something extremely privacy-invasive, which will really just be a new vehicle for selling stuff to us that we don’t need and eventually it will leak all of the data.

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      Came here to say this. If I had an AI buddy that could do all sorts of stuff for me and talk about history all day with me on long drives while making sure I was perfectly safe and secure and basically be my best artificial friend…

      I’d be riding that train.