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    Israel’s Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, meanwhile, called for immediate punishment for the Palestinian Authority and expanded settlement construction in the Occupied West Bank as a response.

    This is unhinged, wanting to punish the PA for other countries recognizing Palestine.

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        the worlds only super power

        Is the US even really worth that term anymore? Seems like we’ve lost quite a bit of gas since the 90s.

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          Militarily speaking the US is still a force to be reckoned with, they can bitch-slap any smaller non-nuclear country anywhere in the world on a moment’s notice.

          Soft power wise, though, the US is in freefall. And without that soft power the hard power can’t be readily employed because blowback. I’d say in the future the US is going to do a lot more riding on the EU’s soft power than they’re currently comfortable admitting. That is, they’re not going to invade random countries to bolster election results at home, they’re going to knock on Brussel’s door and ask “hey anything need peacekeeping right now that would be popular with the world?”, then portray it as their own initiative.

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            Militarily speaking the US is still a force to be reckoned with

            Sure. But so are France, Russia, India, and Pakistan. A lot of the US influence comes from its extensive base network. And yet… America can’t keep the Suez open in the face of some Yemeni rebels with access to a Radio Shack. They’ve bowed out in Afghanistan and Iraq. They’re roughly holding the line in Ukraine by sheer weight of expenditure. Logistically, all very impressive. But its playing ten different chess games at once. Only impressive if you’re not losing them.

            I’d say in the future the US is going to do a lot more riding on the EU’s soft power than they’re currently comfortable admitting.

            I’m not even sure what the EU looks like in another thirty years. The UK is in steep decline, France is in full sell-out mode, Germany and Italy are making kissy-faces at their fascist wings. The Eastern European states never recovered from the break up of the USSR. Scandinavia is a gas station.

            Europe’s chips seem to be stacking up in the Middle East, under a handful of petty dictatorships and theocracies. But the real future power players are looking more and more like the member states of the South Pacific - India, China, Pakistan, Indonesia. Enormous populations, high tech industries, rapidly expanding navies, some of the last pristine wilderness anywhere on earth… These look like the countries which will be leading the world into back end of the 21st century.

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              We could stop the Yemenis. But it would take far more manpower and material than anyone in the US is willing to commit right now. We could go to the fortress village concept; and just generally go full scale COIN. It would stop the attacks. It would also cost a trillion dollars over a couple years and probably turn into a transitional government and peacekeeping mission.

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                We could stop the Yemenis

                The same way we stopped the Iraqis, the Afghanis, and the Vietnamese, sure.

                We could go to the fortress village concept; and just generally go full scale COIN.

                Trying to teach another generation of 19 year olds broken Arabic before throwing them into a literal mine field?

                We could try it. But I can’t imagine it would boost enlistment rates

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                  Enlistment? Shit at the rate we’re getting into fights we’re going to need conscription anyways. Let’s just get it over with. /s

                  The only reason we have shortages is because they cannibalized an entire generation. Turns out when you keep fighting you go right through the pool of eligible volunteers.

                  And hey I didn’t say we’d leave a stable state behind. Just that we’d stop the attacks.

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      Wait! Vatican recognized Palestine?!?

      Either way if what Spain said is true and Europe becomes green as well, it would be pretty much US, Australia and Israel to not recognize Palestine

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        Obligatory note for all the “Christians should support Israel” crowd. The Israeli minister of Security said, that Christians should be spit on. When Christians want to pray for Easter in the Church of the holy sepulcher, Israeli security forces are also harassing and attacking them. Israel is not only an ethnostate, it is also founded on religious and race supremacy, where white european/american Jews are on the top of the hierarchy and anyone else will face discrimination.

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    Russia threatened “severe consequences” for sanctions and supporting Ukraine.

    Israel is not doing itself any favours threatening other countries.

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      I’m a bit surprised Russia is even on the “Supports Palestine” list, given that they’ve been increasingly hostile towards Arab people and cozy towards Israel.