Serious question for you all. I too wish to see Linux use increase. I also want to see corporate social media die. I am thinking of requiring my students to create Lemmy accounts for a Lemmy group i create.
Do you think this might move folks away from essy corporate os and social media? How do You see it giving wrong?
I like the idea, but a lot of people resent being made to create accounts on random services. We know that Lemmy is good because we’re here, but it might put them off the idea.
Depending on the age of your students, you might have to be careful about the fact that NSFW content is freely available here, and check the terms of your instance to see if they’re allowed to make accounts in the first place e.g. on most social media and forums you have to be 13 or over.
These are college students. I’ll try to make the assignment relevant and fun.
Awesome, good luck 🙂
I like it! Even if the majority of em completely abandon the accounts afterwards, it’ll increase the visibility of a fledgeling platform AND it’ll show a few folks that alternative social media platforms exist.
I mean, shit, if lemmy can suit my needs there’s no reason it shouldn’t work for at least some of em.
I remember a teacher requiring us to use Matrix for a coding class. We still mostly used Discord, and after that class ended, we never used it again.
You and I have a reason we use Lemmy: we don’t want to use Reddit and want the Fediverse to grow. Simply forcing your students to make Lemmy accounts won’t do anything, in fact it might make them hate it (Oke boomer).
Eh, just because you can’t make a horse drink water is no reason not to lead it there.
“hey there’s this thing called lemmy, check it out some time” <- leading a horse to water
“ok you have to register an account on lemmy, it’s part of your grade” <- shoving a hose down the horse’s throat and cranking the spigot
Exactly. I remember when my favorite teacher said “This is a textbook. Check it out sometime”.
Haven’t seen this in the other comments: Coolness factor. If you’re a successfully popular teacher, i.e. “cool”, then your students will likely want to participate in whatever it is you suggest.
However, if they don’t see you as cool, you might have difficulty, and might even put them off the platform. This is not something that can be fixed easily, and trying to be cool is about as uncool as you can get.
(Making it mandatory will work, of course, but how you go about that could determine whether they choose to stay on the platform once you’re done. This was kind of covered by OP talking about Matrix in another comment here.)
requiring my students to create Lemmy accounts
No. Nobody likes registering accounts for random services because an authority figure told them they had to, I feel like if it were me I would do the bare minimum of interacting that I was required to and never look at the service again out of resentment.
One extra Norwegian user in Statcounter’s biased and unrepresentative dataset started to use Linux, probably.
I don’t think it’s that biased and unrepresentative, as Pornhub’s usage statistics show about the same numbers for global Linux usage
Pornhub is legitimately one of the best sites for internet statistics around. It’s very widely visited and they actually put out the numbers. (Although, sadly, in my state of Virginia, they comply with identification requirements, so I only visit it with my VPN active, which then fucks up the stats.)
“Best sites”
Norwegian here. I quit reddit and joined Lemmy after the API debacle. Installed mint because of W11. (A big factor was how Steam and proton enables me to play games/
Can’t say either Lemmy or Linux has gotten any media attention in the big news sources as far as I can see.
I am the only one in my circle of friends that quit Reddit (most follow the various 40k reddits, and they have no replacement in federeted options)
Also Norwegian. I installed Debian linux inspired by my brother who uses a version of Gentoo before systemd, and trying to hack an annoying neighbour’s bluetooth speaker. I quickly became invested in Linux. However, as far as I know, I might be the only one among my friends to make the switch. I joined Lemmy after discovering Voyager on F-Droid on my rooted, degoogled android phone
Don’t use root on Android or AOSP/Lineage OS
Why is that ?
It breaks the Android security model
Never changed the ROM of my abdroid phones but, as far as I understand, it should possible to install Lineage and lock the boot loader and stop using root, no?
Did he ever hack the speaker?
We need answers
There are two difficult problems in computer science. Naming things, and pairing with Bluetooth speakers.
The only way to have those communities is to create them. That’s what I did.
Cuba, Germany, Greece and Albania have good %
Strong social nets that allow people breathing room to allow more interest in how their computers work?
Northern European pride!
Being that Linus is from Finland & all.
yet finland has way less linux users per capita
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/finland#monthly-202307-202407
They just started counting all my computers and virtual machines on which I run Arch and Nixos btw!
Good choices
Thanks! As I have been learning to love the Nix way of doing things my only regret is missing the great documentation of Arch. Hopefully we can have the best of both worlds in the future!
1 out of the 3 total norwegian changed the OS after creating a lemmy account.
We’re quite stupid and easy to influence.
Proof in point: I’ve gone from 0 to 3 Linux machines since joining Lemmy.
Someone send help, please??
I can send you an ISO file with more Tux.
Buy Raspberry Pis in bulk and make pointless SBC projects. It’s the only thing that will fulfill you.
Go Pine64
And grab their risc-v model
Or the arm version. They both are good for software freedom
Go Framework
Same here. Maybe that explains it, all linux users just run multiple systems. I dont know many people who use linux certainly not every third person I meet.
Source: æøå
I really want to and at the same time don’t want to know where your name comes from…
I’m thinking koffert straight away
No luggage no worries
You laugh but I installed my first Linux distro after leaving reddit and coming here lol.
One must protect their liberty
European governments will do this thing where they pass some law that says they have to take bids from local vendors for systems, olafs computer service will put in a bid with some free software system, the government will take them up on it, spend a bunch of money trying to integrate it into their existing systems with varying degrees of success then parlay abandoning it for their majority provider in exchange for avoiding cost increases or some free support/equipment.
I think Germany’s done it twice now.
The EU requires government acquisitions to be publicly announced so that private companies can make offers that the government then must choose from (not freely, mind you, but following some “objective” metrics).
Even though this might sound great to some, it has the downside of promoting commercial services and vendor lock-in up to the point that even if a free and open source alternative exists, it cannot be used unless there also exists some commercial entity behind it that can sell the software and support for it in accordance with the established metrics.
This might be one of the biggest hurdles in the way for Linux adoption, since anyone can claim to do lots of great stuff with SUPERproprietarySOFTWARETM and then hold critical services, like healthcare mentioned elsewhere, hostage to their failure to deliver on promises and future bad support.
I in general very much support requiring paying for support. I.e. SLAs with consequences for not meeting targets support.
At least for software/hardware running things that can’t afford indefinite unauthorized access or downtime if left in a vulnerable state. (Some stuff actually can IMHO be like that).
I also think governments should have justify renting software insteading buying it if the money is intended to be an investment of any kind.
Even more important, a huge multinational like Microsoft can be forced in court to provide the support they sell under threat of legal action that would cripple their profitability in the region. Olafs computer service will just turn its pockets inside out, flip around the shingle to closed and leave the national drivers license agency in a lurch.
On some level the companies that sell and support systems government relies on have to be treated as nation states themselves in order to maintain normalcy, which both parties “want”.
I think Germany’s done it twice now.
It was Munich and they switched back to Windows after M$ moved their German headquarters to Munich.
That was very funny.
Smelly corruption that was as plain as day
Is that where all the government computers run Ubuntu?
I’m a Norwegian Linux enthusiast and have never heard anything about the government using Ubuntu or Linux. Seems unlikely, from what I know. I know that within healthcare Windows is still widely used, even on the server side…
On the other hand, a lot of software for official services is being developed as open source now, so that’s at least a good step in the right direction. Example: https://github.com/navikt
Norwegian government loves windows, so yea, I really doubt it. (by it, I mean the government using Ubuntu thing)
Source: I used to work for the Norwegian government
edit: added explanation to “it”, so not to be as confusing to what I refered to.
You’re thinking of Switzerland
Ah, thanks! I knew it was somewhere.
This graph gives me some Corona flashbacks.
I was confused why they used Swedish flag colors for a Norwegian graph
The welfare of the brother peoples.
Well you see. 1905 never happened, and we are all under Sweden still. /s
This is reported as a percentage and that’s what is tripping people up here.
You are not seeing a drastic rise in Linux usage you are seeing a large decrease in the use of desktop computers.
Linux is increasing because the only ones left using desktops are Linux users.
Nice explanation but here is a graph with desktop percentage included (versus mobile plus tablet, but that isn’t shown)
I especially appreciate that the graph is designed as “Linux” and “Other” instead of “Windows”, maybe “MacOS” and “Other”.
Linux on all their electric cars, and they’re watching porn while driving ;)
Where do I sign?
On the fat cheque
Oh right. I knew I missed something.
You need to write “I agree on the terms of service, rent agreement and privacy policy of any electric vehicle manufacture” in order for me to elaborate on the topic, please.
noice
