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Is a Christmas decoration a religious symbol? Or is Christmas now entirely commercial.
It’s entirely commercial.
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I couldn’t care less about any organized religion and IMO they all do more harm than good; however, being Quebec, this is 100% a poke to flame hatred towards Muslims… entirely hypocritical
Religion is social cancer, and religiously indoctrinating children should count as abuse
It should be illegal for children to practice religion, let them grow into adults, and then they can make their own decisions.
Invisibilising women will only create more hatred and discension. This is not how what you want will work.
And nobodies is practicing religion into a CPE it goes against law already
Cool, then if it isn’t allowed to be practiced in schools, then there’s no problem with this, it’s just a continuation of existing policy.
There is no world where children being religiously indoctrinated creates LESS hatred and division.
The problem is not practicing, the problem is some faith ask their people to clothe in a certain way.
Invisibilising this people will not bring what the government search
You keep using that word like it means anything in this context.
What people do in private is not really enforceable
But in public no religion should be shown prefrence or even respect.
How’s this going to fly for indigenous symbols?
Their cultural symbols and practices are protected under Federal Law.
Right up until the not withstanding clause is invoked…
Freedom of expression is also protected under federal law.
I’m conflicted on this one. It seems to be framed as hateful against Middle-eastsrn religions in particular, but doesn’t it restrict ALL religious symbols? I’m all for less religion in public places, regardless of the religion.
It’s Quebec. they love to pick and choose their hate. yes it’s specifically targeted towards Muslims, no they wont’ remove Christian symbols, yes Quebec has always been pithy like this.
Remember back in the 90s when they wanted to ditch us but keep the money? this is just more pithy Quebecois bullshit.
I mean the Yahweh cult and it’s different sects (Christianity, Judaism, Islam etc.) comes from an ancient middle-eastern religion. It’s also the deadliest and most violent cult/ideology in the history of mankind. Wearing a cross, star or moon is pretty much the same thing as wearing a swastika, except maybe worse.
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Hey look, me at 13
This image released in September 2013 by a minority PQ government shows a proposal for types of religious clothing allowed and not allowed for public workers under Quebec’s proposed ‘charter of values.’ (The Associated Press/Quebec government)
If you have additional information that contradicts it, I’d happy to see it. I don’t live in Quebec, and only know what I know.
I don’t, and i don’t live in canada, nor i care about the politics too much, that’s why i’m here to see what’s up, and i find taking an 2013 image from the government proposal at the time and without context is a bit disingenuous.
I took it from a news article from last week, which suggests pretty strongly that that proposal is exactly what was implemented, and they never produced an updated graphic.
But again, I’d welcome a genuine correction.
Just underneath that picture it says it was not implemented.
In 2013, a minority PQ government proposed the notorious “charter of Quebec values,” aiming to ban religious symbols for public servants, but it went nowhere after the PQ lost the 2014 election.
The bill is still being debating in the supreme court. A timeline with more details and updates can be found here: https://ccla.org/major-cases-and-reports/bill-21/
That said, the Quebec government has been pretty fucking hostile to people who wear religious symbols. The original article frames it as residual tensions from the French Catholic chuch but a big part of it is definitely xenophobia and racism. Montreal and Quebec City are progressive havens in a land of very small, very white, very religious towns.
Thank you - this is what I’m here for.
Again, i don’t really care, i’m providing context you purposely left out.
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I linked to the article!
The giant cross on the top of Mount Royal is a religious symbol too so they should remove it asap.
It’s not a daycare though. Neither is the oratory.
There’s a bunch of cross on school outer wall troughs out Quebec. The CAQ didn’t see it important to rip them out because « they’re patrimoine »
Hypocritical fuckers
The moment the satanic church notices their under-reresentation and fixes it, you’ll see everyone on-board for purely secular daycares.
It is very interesting to see the pendulum swing. I do find the title misleading as the article appears to only apply to wearing religious symbols and it only applying to new employees as already employed are exempt.
It also doesn’t seem to differentiate between public, private or subsidized daycares. Lots of open air in this article.
Can I ask what pendulum? Because Quebec has been doing this for decades.
Quebec Soccer Federation rever… https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-soccer-federation-reverses-turban-ban-1.1319350
I’m an anti-theist and believe religion does untold damage to society. In my perfect world I’m completely for the removal of all religion iconography in publicly funded institutions. This includes clothing, jewellery, and gaudy John 3:16 t-shirts.
If it’s private, do whatever you want. If you want a grotesque image of your dead god on a cross hanging on your wall, you do you. I just don’t want to pay for that out of my tax dollars.
That said, I understand people wear a bunch of stupid shit for their gods, and that is a freedom of expression that should be protected. If someone wears a magic cross, bulletproof underwear of protection, or has to hide their hair because their god hates hairdos, then whatever. That in itself probably isn’t going to hang black people, start an ethnic genocide, or fly planes into buildings.
As long as these religious kooks don’t spout their hateful superstitious bullshit to the kids, I’m fine with it.
I am so very thankful that I wasn’t born and raised it that hateful (at far as their goberment is concerned) province.
Don’t speak ill of the people, shit on the gouv all you want.
Quebec is not a hateful place but as other places in the Canada hawful people fan the flame for political gain.
Other than Manitoba, it’s the most racist and intolerant province I’ve lived in.
Never heard this one. Care to explain on it ?
Well now you’ve heard it. That’s your explanation - don’t play dumb, it’s not becoming.
No. I’m genuinely interested by your take. I’m all in to say that Quebec is one of the most racist province but I want (liked) some external experience
Edit: also I’ve heard Quebec is racist as Alberta but never as Manitoba
Hopefully, my edit makes it clear enough.
Hate is growing in Quebec and Canada is general due to conservatives and ultranationalists(PQ) anti imigration stand and the propaganda of islamists are trying to impose Sharia law and change our culture as if culture never involved before and influence other cultures. A 1600 canadian is different culturally than a 2020 canadian
I’m Canadian, pro-immigration, and yet I don’t believe religious symbols belong in a child’s daycare or school, regardless of the religion. I agree with this move.
This legislation unfairly targets Muslims, in particular women.
Education and religion are inherently incompatible. If I saw my children’s teachers wearing a cross, I’d question their ability to actually do their job, especially in the Sciences.
What worry me is those kind of things.
Protesters face off in Montreal over controversial presentation for land sale in Israel, West Bank
Why I didn’t hear him criticize this
I don’t think telling what sign a person use is something the state need to be involved in . I’m not that serious about this but maybe Paul can remove st aka saint from his name
He also complained about a lapresse article talking about the increase of anti immigrant sentiment where more Quebecor think immigration contribute the increase of criminality
He also believe in the Initiative du siècle which is the same rhetoric of the grand replacement as both promote the extreme fear of demographic changes
