Seriously, what Israel is doing today is no different from what the Nazis did before and at the beginning of World War II, extreme nationalism, illegal expansion, annexation of foreign territory claiming it historically belongs to them, propaganda using the latest technology, terrorizing neighbors, military at the center of society.

  • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The Humanitarianism in Western “Democracies” was always performative, the least democratic the nation the more performative it was, which I why generally you see the most support for Israel in the countries with the least democratic voting systems like the US and the UK (though present day Germany is a bit of an exception to this since they have a mixed voting system with a Proportional Vote component).

    I don’t think that there’s any causal link there. New Zealand still doesn’t recognise the Palestinian state and has arguably the most democratic voting system. Australia has just recognised it (same as the UK) but still fund it, and we have a fairly democratic voting system.

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      True, I’m a bit unsure on that front.

      It’s true that the least democratic (in terms of voting systems) of the so-called “Democratic” nations, such as the US, UK and even Canada are invariably amongst the ones whose governments most support Israel even against public opinion, but there are several examples of countries which have supposedly much more democratic voting systems and whose governments still strongly support Israel.

      Clearly how close a country is to democratic “perfection” in terms of the allocation of parliamentary representatives matching the choice of the population through their vote, is far from the full picture in terms of explaining the posture of politicians in those countries with regards to this Genocide.

      • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Bestie, China supports Palestine and they are one of the least democratic nations. To say it has any correlation at all is ridiculous. But if you want me to go and compare the democracy index and get you a p-value I’ll do it.

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          It’s more that I think there are multiple factors, one of which is how much politicians in power represent the will of the people.

          For example, a nation being allied or not to the US also seems to infliuence their support or not for Israel whilst it commits a Genocide.

          I would be surprised if that p-value is close to 1, but I would also be surprised if it’s close to 0.