Aside from men being horny in the 1800s, and this being a holdover since that time, is there any actual reason why this hasn’t changed?
If society was dominated by women, would this be more likely to change?
I was sweating my ass off hiking in the hot sun, and the question has been bothering me all day after my top soaked through with sweat.
Where are you getting the 1800s from?
Did men stop being horny since then?
In much of Europe and North America, female toplessness is legal. As for why women don’t take advantage of it when exercising, breast movement varies from annoyance to uncomfortable and throwing off momentum depending upon size. As a result, many women exercise wearing what is most convenient: a sports-bra top. However, concerns about harassment are sadly valid.
Women are the majority of voting age adults, but they aren’t a homogeneous group voting exclusively on gender. 45% of women voted for Trump in 2024.
As a male who exercises in high heat on occasion (35-38c), I have never once thought that I’d rather be naked. I wear breathable, light colored clothing. I also wear a top. Sun burns aren’t healthy.
breast movement varies from annoyance to uncomfortable
As a teenager and young woman, not being able to find a good super supportive sports bra for my weird size was one of the reasons I stopped trying to exercise.
I still hold my boobs automatically when taking the stairs or when I run somewhere. Otherwise it hurts and feels like my breasts are being torn away from my body.
There was a movement to decriminalise women being topless (because it is actively criminalised in a lot of places). Unfortunately it’s fallen off. It’s particularly ridiculous because women are the ones who have an actual need to expose their breasts in public, ie some women need to breastfeed—no men need to.
Some people get turned on seeing topless men but it’s not a sex crime for men to be shirtless in public. Free the nipple 2025
There’s fewer women than men up until elderly age.
The only way you can take your shirt off for hot days and exercise without getting too much male attention, is when there’s enough female competition that men can’t take off theirs.
But that also means in bars, churches, libraries, online dating sites, everywhere.No.
In the United States, for example, by age 45 women are the majority and remain so. As infants and children cannot vote, women also form most eligible voters.
I would love it if women could go shirtless and braless but maybe not kids eh, that shit would be not so cool.
Kids probably don’t care.
I think they mean it would not be so cool for kids to be running around topless.
Tbh, I’d much prefer if no one did.
At least in very public spaces like streets.
They can where I live.
They don’t.
Because men. And very aggressive lesbians too, I’m guessing, but mainly men.
They can pretty much everywhere. The areas where it is against the law are in the minority. Every woman who wants to go topless in public, can and usually does. That’s just such a small subset no one sees it.
Honestly, I don’t think it is the men saying you can’t be topless. It’s other women. I am pretty sure that even though I would get used to boobs everywhere, I would still be in a generally better mood. Boobs just make most guys happy. I don’t know if it would make women who are attracted to women happy too, but maybe.
Legally, a lot of places it’s been court tested, and you actually can. Culturally, it’s just kind of that way. Hair is banned in Arabia, tits can hang out in Papua New Guinea. The West says no boobs but hair is fine.
A genital covering is the only cultural universal, although it can sometimes be overly revealing by Western standards, like with penis gourds.
A genital covering is the only cultural universal, although it can sometimes be overly revealing by Western standards, like with penis gourds.
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The machines consider the human body, and especially the body’s organs related to sexual reproduction as inherently obscene.
The machine believes harm is caused by the sight of these organs and it wishes them to remain hidden under treath of state sanctions until such time as they can be removed.
Afaik they can. At least in NM.
So are there topless women everywhere in NM?
Because there was a movement to make it socially acceptable for men in the 20th century that was successful while the equivalent one for women has been slower, but also has seen some successes resulting in places like New York, New York and Columbus, Ohio permitting female toplessness in public.
A matter of social acceptability in general. Some societies, moreso before Western norms became widespread, don’t view the breasts in a sexual way and a woman going topless would be completely unremarkable.
Other than the breasts, some societies see the legs as very sexual, so they always cover the legs in public.
I think it would be more likely to change in a female-dominant society, but they could just as well not change it for no obvious reason. I’m sure there’s some nuance I’m glossing over, but even though it’s legal for me to go out in my underwear as a man in a male-dominated society, I wouldn’t do so voluntarily, regardless of the temperature.
because patriarchy only sees women as sexual objects.
It’s legal to be completely naked where I live, that doesn’t mean that it’s socially acceptable or that it won’t count as “disturbing the order”(not what it’s called legally, but it’s tricky to translate into English well, “förargelseväckande beteende”).
But it isn’t illegal to be naked😃. So they can, but they don’t, usually
