https://www.indiatvnews.com/technology/news/elon-musk-announces-tesla-s-humanoid-robots-for-internal-use-by-next-year-2024-07-22-943098

I’ll personally be forever indebted for Neuralink(, he accelerated the occurrence of researchs/discoveries i intended to “waste” my life doing, so i owe him at least a decade of my life and that’s more than i owe anyone else in this regard), but androids/cyborgs will change absolutely everything(, even if we haven’t yet began) :

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-optimus-price-less-than-25k-30k-elon-musk

Don’t worry(, i know you don’t like E.Musk for… reasons, not sure why, every billionaire is a thief but no billionaires uses h.er.is stolen wealth more productively than him), China will soon do their own versions(, have you seen their progress in fusion b.t.w ? Welcome to the future gals/guys !)

      • darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
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        4 months ago

        The US has some of the most advanced technology in the world. Do you think therefore it is the closest to achieving communism? If you don’t then why not?

        Furthermore, is a billionaire’s “successes” his to appropriate? Who created his capital? Why does he own others’ labour to exploit?

        The “Fully Automated Luxury Communism” dream, embraced more by pundits with cushy lives than working people, also reveals a dark truth: western “socialists” have some awareness that a more equal world will mean losing first-world privileges. They cannot conceive of things getting better steadily and slowly, with hard work. And so they are forced to denigrate the Chinese road of self-sacrifice in favour of leisure-driven utopianism. The reality is that the victory of the working class over the capitalist class will usher in an era of hard but rewarding work, as opposed to hard work without reward.

        https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/

        I am not asking you to answer these questions here. This is not a debate-bro gotcha. This is an invitation for exploration, further reading and potential self-reflection; giving you the benefit of doubt you are sincere (I’m ignoring your last comment).

        • soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.mlOP
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          4 months ago

          I didn’t expected a serious answer, thank you very much for the effort.

          I don’t believe that introducing androids will lead to communism, but such a change is hard to anticipate : what will we(sterners) do with all these unemployed ? Allowing them to live like the nobles of the past and encouraging them to pursue higher goals than solely pleasure(, e.g., playing video games and/or partying all day) ? I don’t know, but getting rid of jobs we hate doing wouldn’t make the western world a worst place(, well, except in this case though)
          Or we’ll just become useless for the powerful, and barely survive :

          Furthermore, is a billionaire’s “successes” his to appropriate? Who created his capital? Why does he own others’ labour to exploit?

          I know, Elon Musk is akin to Thomas Edison, clearly not Nikola Tesla. But i don’t have an answer to the argument that “his” many discoveries would have happened many years later without him. Hence why i can only feel grateful.

          And since this is the second time you’re talking about it, i can talk quite a bit about neo-colonialism if you want to exchange authors recommendations. I’ve personally lived in a van since 2015 and rarely have more than 1000€ in my bank account, yet i’ll insist until the end to explain why i’m very clearly in the aristocracy of the labour class, it’s not even something that can be questioned for it is very obvious.

          • darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
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            4 months ago

            Rather than breakdown everything you said which will not be fruitful and will look like a personal attack, instead I am just going to pick out one thing.

            I know, Elon Musk is akin to Thomas Edison, clearly not Nikola Tesla. But i don’t have an answer to the argument that “his” many discoveries would have happened many years later without him. Hence why i can only feel grateful.

            For the sake of your personal growth you need to figure out what is wrong with that sentiment.

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            EM is a reactionary transphobic white supremacist filth parading his version of crypto-eco-fascism. His main inadvertent highlight is saying the quiet bit out a loud and exposing liberals (including “left-liberals”) for what they really are. His admirers include fascists around the world from South/central American gusanos to the Indian hindutva cowards. He is also a proud amplifier of the genocide against palestinians to boot. You owe him nothing.

            • soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.mlOP
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              4 months ago

              He’s transphobic but that’s the only point i’ll agree with you, he’s clearly not a fachist since he’s even in favor of direct democracy and is always talking about being driven by virtue. Even in international relations he’s weirdly not anti-China nor anti-Russia. But i guess it’d be better to stop here. Again, thank you very much for developing your point of view, even if i don’t agree.

              I unfortunately haven’t synthetized my notes about neo-colonialism, but please tell me if you know better authors than : Jason Hickel, Ha-Joon Chang, Zak Cope, and Erik Reinert. I’m still shocked many years later to have discovered that western countries(, who had a headstart,) are still growing faster than so-called poor(exploited) countries. With the exception of the few countries who didn’t listened to the “unholy trinity” of the i.m.f., the world bank, and the w.t.o… And it’s weird that our closest political allies such as Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, or Israel, are coincidentally those who escaped the fate of every other country, if i’m skipping many arguments in the end i believe that the root of out problems is that we’re afraid of allowing potential enemies to develop, we want to keep our control, even at the expense of global equality, there’s perhaps also a bit of selfishness/nationalism of course.