This post is attracting a lot of trolls. You guys are handling it great, so I’m not going to lock it. Reminder to not take any of the downvotes or "calm down"s seriously.
I know American Eagle resurrected Goebbels to write ads for them… what about the other two?
These aren’t just commercials with “white representation,” they are promoting eugenics. Seriously, go watch them. It’s not even subtle.
Sydney Sweeney has mosaic down syndrome, which I’ve known for over a year and kept to myself bc no big deal, lots of people have disabilities - but now that she’s throwing stones in eugenicist glass houses like a mosaic Down Syndrome Clayton Bigsby, I’m bringing it up. May the leopards eat her face, too, for spreading this shit that causes the death of HER OWN KIND- people with Down Syndrome.
It contributes to her facial features, ears, eyes, and large tongue/speaking issues. She even has the cleft in her tongue and the toe separation. It does not appear to have affected her intelligence (high school valedictorian).
Below - current pic of Sydney, pic of girl w confirmed mosaic down syndrome, pic of Sydney before plastic surgery/injectables, pic of descriptive features of down syndrome:
She looks more like that stranger than her own literal family.
I don’t know if she has the condition you are talking about or not, but I do know that some of the features that result from down syndrome makes a person appear more “child like”. Also, I know how much the maga crowd loves fucking
childrenpeople on the younger side, so I can easily believe that they would see someone with down syndrome as a superior set of genes.Man, I wish I had mosaic down syndrome…
Or at least big boobs…
EDIT: Wait, did I say that out loud?
You can pay to look like that if you want.
but now that she’s throwing stones in eugenicist glass houses
I’m sorry, she’s doing what? And how?
I’m so confused by this whole thing. She’s in a jeans ad - what’s the big deal? (I’m not from the US so I might be missing some important context)
Is English not your first language? The phrase “she has great jeans” is a double entendre for “good genes”, which feels like a white supremacy dog whistle. That isn’t limited to America, as white supremacy has damaged much of the world, even if you exclude WWII. Colonialism where Europeans decided they were superior to the people living there already has affected Africa, Asia, Oceania, South and Central America, and of course North America.
which feels like a white supremacy dog whistle
Because there’s a white person on the screen?
Out of curiosity: would you consider the ad a “black supremacy dog whistle” if the ad had a black girl instead?
Yes, if it said that personality came from genes, then said that said black girl had “great jeans.'”
Do you think black supremacy doesn’t exist? Black Israelism and 5% Nation are both explicitly black supremacists imo, and I in no way consider them to be doing my skin color favors. I will criticize them the same way I criticize British Israelism. As well as other dog whistles or other colorism.
I’m also highly critical of black people who hate on lighter colored black people, and have family who has suffered from it.
Did you think that was a gotcha? That people critical of racism aren’t critical of racists of similar color to them?
I think people might be overreacting a bit.
Sure, the wording was horrible, but dudes online are basically saying the actress is a Nazi. That’s on the same level as people harassing actors for a bad film script to me.
“People are overreacting” was a common response to the rise of Trump, the increase in first amendment violations by religion, police brutality, and yes, even the Nazis. We need to react to the shift that are happening to make sure they stop. If they seem like an overreaction to you, it’s because you aren’t the one in danger,and you don’t care about those of us who are. You even admitted you weren’t in the US, and said you were confused.
I explained the context, and now you, someone who doesn’t have experience of growing up in American racism, are judging the reaction?
From what I’ve gathered. She’s white, blonde, and blue-eyed. The ad says, she has good “jeans” which, without the text, could be interpreted as “genes”.
Seriously, watch the ad we’re talking about before making a fool of yourself.
I watched a couple… Would you be kind enough to send me the one you think I should watch?
Here is the original Sydney Sweeney “jeans” ad that sparked the controversy. AE took this one down and replaced it with versions that are less overt so that people who hear about the controversy will see those instead and not understand what the fuss is about, even if they are typically more clued in.
And here is the Dunkin donuts ad, which IMO is even more overt with the reference to “color analysis.”
Standing alone these ads have plausible deniability, but they feature attractive white actors bragging about their good genetics in the context of the president surrounding himself with and appealing to white supremacists and RFK Jr re-popularizing eugenics.
Edit: I personally haven’t seen the Arby’s one, and I’m not going to go looking for it. This bullshit has me feeling angry and bitter precisely because it is meant to fly under the radar for most people and make those calling it out sound crazy. I’m going to touch grass instead of further torturing myself.
No, she literally goes on a lecture about how genes are passed down from parent to offspring, it is explicitly about genes.
I’m not going to explain much. WW2 happened forever ago, if you refuse to understand the context of a white girl with blue eyes saying she has great genes, whose dad is a Trumper from racist Spokane, doing an ad for a CEO who is a Trumper and whose son is doing a real estate deal for Trump, who is a blatant white supremacist that had Hitler’s speeches on his bedside table and leading the blatantly racist MAGA movement… That’s on you.
The ad could’ve had more than one actress and said, “We have great genes/jeans.” It could have celebrated diversity. It didn’t, because their CEO is a white supremacist who teamed up with a white supremacist to make a white supremacist ad.
That’s a lot of completely unnecessary words, mate. Take a couple of breaths, calm down, not everybody who doesn’t immediately pat you on the back is out to get you.
The version of the ad I saw did not have the “genes are passed down” bit.
You’re doing a lot of defense for fascists here. Why?
Quote the bit you consider as me defending fascists or apologise.
Literally nearly every reply you’ve made itt. I won’t quote your whole body of work, go look through your own account.
Don’t try it. Lemmy is a very racist place. They’re just better at keeping quiet about it.
Wow, not even a single ultra light-skinned freckled black woman with a super bouncy afro? That is anti-woke! America is back, baby! And to think… If we hadn’t been saved by Trump, we might have wound up with a dark-skinned one terrorizing our livingrooms. 😰
a single ultra light-skinned freckled black woman with a super bouncy afro
Ah, you mean the one black friend in the group of pretty white women?
Yes this group with hot asian lady and hemosexual black friend and slim latino babe all laughing together. fuck them! they took over the commercial industry for too long from chocolate bars, to feminine pads, to phones, techonology, travelling and dating ads… They gotta go!
Finally, we may shed our woke chains…
I’m going to have to leave an /s here, that’s a borderline joke even for me.
Do you live in a swamp? 'Cause this joke’s got layers.
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is that practice still happening? Where?
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I thought the woman on the right was half-asian, but I could be wrong. Are asian white people now? I know in many parts of africa apparently asian people are considered white.
When was the last time anyone here ate at Arby’s? It’s one of those places for me at least that only gets brought up by my parents on where they want to go, and for me it’s always ugh really?
Their French dip sub is glorious. I stopped going since the pandemic inflation until the deals through their mobile app made their prices competitive again.
Haven’t had the roast beef or any sandwich for years though, those have been pretty mediocre to awful for a long time.
Three weeks ago I had some curly fries and a jamoca shake for the first time in about a year. They were still pretty darn good!
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I used to love the jamocha shakes, until I saw the calorie count.
True for all shakes though.
Arby’s is good now. I think they are using real meat
I actually wonder how this affected Arby’s because every Simpsons fan I know quotes this.
And the one time I went to Arby’s, it was real disgusting.
I don’t think it affected them negatively, if you are into warm deli meat slathered in cheesewhiz you know where to find it. Nobody can make food unappetizing the way Arby’s can. They cater to a niche 2 percent of the population with a specific autism.
I can’t hear the gif and I can’t read animated lips. What’s she saying?
It’s from this clip. Like ByteOnBikes mentioned, this is burned into everyone’s brain who watched this show I think.
Thanks a lot Milhouse, now we’re all going to starve
I think my wife went sometime last year? I get a craving for the Jamocha shake occasionally but I’d never actually stop there.
I don’t think it exists where I live anymore. There used to be one in a mall when I was in high school ~20 years ago. I think I bought curly fries from them once.
I like their potato cakes. Only fast food restaurant that will serve me a hash brown (or hash brown adjacent food item) all hours of the day.
July 6, 2023
I have eaten Arby’s within the past year… I think they have decent chicken sandwiches and curly fries. Not anywhere near a top choice for me though.
Where else can I get a gyro and a root beer without leaving my car?
Yeah, if I wanted to eat diarrhea, I’d grab a box of laxatives and a short length of hose.
it tastes better when it’s from a machine tho
i like their horsey sauce. last time i ate there was over thirty years ago
They managed to cherry pick 3 examples. Good job on them
Yeah, I could have picked three random ads with white people a couple years ago too… It’d be different if they had, like, numbers showing more ads were using just white people or something than before.
I just think that it’s hilarious that they chose three failing brands.
So long have white people yearned for representation in media. Never getting to see people that look like them on the television. Justice finally being done for white people.
Honestly, who else is eating at Arby’s?
WAT?!?
he wants to taste her hair and bobs and buy her arbys. it’s pretty straightforward ashton.
It’s kind of weird because I don’t eat at Arby’s, but a few years back Arby’s bought Buffalo Wild Wings??? I’m terribly confused because I feel like more people eat at Buffalo Wild & pay more to do so. Which begs the question: how in the hell does Arby’s have the money to buy BWW? 🤔
I’m about to go in a few
American Eagle? Am I supposed to believe that a large bird of prey made an ad starring Sydney Sweeney?
Yes, that is exactly what is going on. No need to like look it up or anything. (/s 🤪)
As a white people. I’d prefer less white people.
We should stop calling ourselves white probably.
I am something of a pale pinkish olive myself.
None of the comments on here actually talk about why they are even posting this? Did nobody see the Sydney Sweeney ad and the controversy??
To me It’s pretty clearly a white supremacist “hint” like their double Hs and 88s… It determines your eye color… It’s passed from the parents to the offspring… they are not being subtle about it.
Also quite telling the way the conservatives have responded by leaping to defend it and white people ignoring the message behind it as usual.
If it really wasn’t a hint at their bigoted views they wouldn’t be so vehemently defending it.a couple of points:
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i think calling it a “hint” or dog whistle etc is severe overstatement of the subtlety in which the message is delivered. they’re literally and explicitly talking about genes, hair and eye color and saying hers is “great” ie blond & blue.
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i don’t know why no one points to the actual bad part which is them saying genes determine personality, which is straight up eugenicist bullshit
I thought here genes are great cause she’s hot and has big breasts. I mean her eye color is not the first thing that pops I to my head.
did no one watch the damn thing?
Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality and even eye color.
that’s a quote.
That’s definitely not the ad linked here then.
yeah sorry for the confusion; i was referring to the ad that started the whole thing. didn’t realize a different ad was linked in the top level comment.
In the ad they say her Genes are blue while zooming in on her eyes.
She has big breasts?
that’s pretty much the one thing she’s known for
I’m not here to tell you to buy American Eagle jeans, and I definitely won’t say that they’re the most comfortable jeans I’ve ever worn or that they make your butt look amazing.
Why would I need to do that?
But if you said that you want to buy the jeans, I’m not going to stop you.
Just so we’re clear, this is not me telling you to buy American Eagle jeans.
Sydney Sweeney has great jeans— you see what I did there, right?
Where is the implication that genes are related to personality though?
in the actual Sweeney jeans ad everyone’s talking about
Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality and even eye color.
I see it now. Yuck. Thank you.
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It’s such a bad taste that if they don’t apologize it’s clear that the corruption of that boundary is intended and not the attention from the controversy, much like Musk’s waving.
Sad, there will be dark times ahead. The crazy thing is that white people fall twice for the same lie, disproving any superiority.
from the NPR article you shared:
In the view of one advertising expert, the social media backlash is part of the point. The nature of the ads are one of the few ways companies can break through the noise in this day and age, Allen Adamson, co-founder of brand marketing firm Metaforce, told Morning Edition.
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The Sweeney-centric campaign “was a company figuring out how to break through in a world where everyone is screaming and saying, 'Look at me, look at me!” Adamson said.
I didn’t watch the ad until you linked to it. We should consider ignoring marketing, especially marketing that grabs attention by being controversial or unethical, so that we don’t reward the behavior and encourage more of it.
Ok but why white supremest because she’s white? I thought just a play on words or are genes only for white supremest now!
apart from blonde hair & blue eyes being called “great genes”, the additional mention of personality being determined by genes is straight up racist pseudoscience popular among white supremacists.
also the selection of Sweeney is not a coincidence. she was already picked by the antiwoke (ie racist) crowd as the Aryan prototype that should dominate media.
I think we can agree that believing blonde hair and blue eyes are ‘good genes’ is a hitler-approved ideology. Whether this was meant in a malicious way in this ad is what’s unclear here.
isnt the second one a transdude?
I didn’t find any info on Gavin Casalegno being trans. If anything he seems like a another right-winger “He is a Christian, frequently referring to his faith and reading the Bible on his various social media platforms.”
Is this passing so well you accidentally become a conservative icon 😔
I’m fine with this rumor.