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I’m getting reports further down, I have no idea if what anyone says is true or not. It’s borderline rule 5, but not quite there. This is a strong reminder to hate the argument, not the arguer.
Wow, he wants to provide people dignity and a high quality of life. How terrifying.
I know the dude is probably way more anti-Castro than I am but damn, “Tax hikes = Straight up communism”
Bro, STFU you don’t know shit about shit. YOU go try to live in NYC on $60,000 a year. Dick. Stay in Miami you fucker.
This isn’t even the same Pitbull lol
Oh, that’s not “Mr Worldwide”?
Nope
Weird. I wonder why OP thinks we give a shit if it’s just some random moron on twitter.
I think OP is just hyping up Mamdani and his policies and showing how some idiots think that things like free transit and free childcare are bad things. But tbh so many examples have already been posted, it’s not exactly news.
Mr Worldwide himself claims to be anti-communist, but I think that’s just his Cuban heritage speaking. Dude’s been funding an education program for poor kids starting in his old neighborhood that is now nationwide. While it’s not communism and it’s not even public money being spent, it’s very much in the same vein as Mamdani’s ideas: The goal is to improve equal access to necessities.
He said back in 2016 that he doesn’t support Trump’s joke of a campaign and unlike a lot of Latinos, he’s pro-immigration (the “fuck you, got mine” mentality seems to be pretty common among Latinos living in America, they don’t wanna see any immigrants despite being immigrants themselves). He’s also stated that he loves America, but wants to stay out of politics. He just wants it to be the United States, not the Divided States, according to his Howard Stern interview. I went through the painful process of scrolling back to early November 2024 in his Xitter profile and I couldn’t see a single political statement. A bunch of disgusting preachy motivational quotes about hard work leading to success, but nothing political.
Long story short, he’s got a lot of ego showing in his public persona, his music is very, eh… It’s pop music. It’s made to appeal to as many people as possible so that’s why it feels like it has little personality. But dude himself seems to be very genuine and friendly according to literally every encounter ever described on reddit. The annoying high energy persona is probably just marketing.
Why’d I go through all this trouble? Well I remember some threads bashing him on reddit and a lot of people said he’s actually very different from his media personality. Also, a lot of people wouldn’t have respected the poll results and given a concert on a remote island in Alaska.
Yeah, I feel duped into thinking this was Pitbull the musician and not some random dummy. He sounds cool from your description.
‘“Free” stuff is actually paid by our taxes, checkmate liberal!’
‘…uh, yeah?’
It’s funny that they never complain about the “free” roads or the “free” police.
I feel like this doesn’t get called out more often as the straw man that it is. Right-wingers just love mocking the left for supposedly wanting “free” stuff.
I don’t agree with freezing rent.
The entire concept of rent needs to die in a goddamn fire. Legislation needs to kill the entire idea, not further legitimize it.
We need massive, punitive increases in residential property taxes, with commensurate owner-occupant exemptions: You will not see a tax increase on the property you live in, but any investment property you own is going to see you saddled with a huge tax bill. This might come as a shock, but Corporate landlords don’t occupy their properties. They are not able to claim the owner occupant credit.
But, if you own a second property and lease it to me, we can convert our arrangement from a rental to a “land contract”. I, the occupant, become the legal owner. I continue to make payments. You don’t get to increase those payments over time; they are fixed for the duration of the agreement. If I leave in the first three years, you retain 100% equity in the property. If I stay beyond three years, our agreement converts to a mortgage, and I start gaining equity.
Basically, the only properties that will still be able to be feasibly rented are the remaining units in duplexes, triplexes, and quadplexes, where the landlord lives in one of the units.
I agree but that’s not going to happen overnight and there needs to be a lot of work done beforehand. People need help now.
Renting is an option and convenience for a lot of people, that’s why it exists. Some people don’t want to be tied to a mortgage and might have reasons they only need a place for 6 or 12 months - temporary employment, contracting, studying or whatever.
Anyway renting can work as a model. Germany has a very large proportion of property which is rented. But they have strong tenant protections and place limits on rent hikes, evictions and so on.
I don’t think an outright freeze is a good idea but rent controls and tenant laws would help. As would making casual letting (airbnb etc) a bullshit onerous proposition so that more housing stock is sold or converts into long term rent which lessens rent pressure.
Then cut out the moocher landlord and make every building a co-op. You’re accountable to your guvking neighbors.
Yeah, I prefer to rent because buying here is only reasonable (because of taxes, notary costs, etc) if you will live in that place for more than about 8 years. I usually move before that.
Renting is an option and convenience for a lot of people, that’s why it exists
Those people are called “landlords”.
Some people don’t want to be tied to a mortgage and might have reasons they only need a place for 6 or 12 months - temporary employment, contracting, studying or whatever.
I think I failed to convey the fact that land contracts provide that exact function. The occupant can unilaterally cancel the contract in the first three years, walking away free and clear. Just like ending a rental agreement. I’m not interfering with short-term housing or tying people to homes they don’t want. I’m protecting short term tenants from exploitation, even if they decide to make their temporary plans into a permanent home.
Anyway renting can work as a model. Germany
I don’t know about Germany, but corporate entities are rapidly buying up residential properties in the US. Many are using the same third-party algorithm to establish their rent prices. No amount of government regulation of their business model can effectively suppress the effects of such widespread collusion. They are actively working around rent controls and other tenancy protections.
The solution is to make traditional renting unfeasible for the landlord. Replace it with a system where investors are effectively forced to convey ownership interest if they want to profit from providing housing.
“Renting” will not be feasible for corporate investors once we establish an owner-occupancy exemption to residential property taxes. When we establish that exemption, we are free to peg the property tax rate to the owner-occupancy rate. Any year the rate is below 80%, the effective property tax rate for investors increases by 20%. It doesn’t start dropping again until the owner occupancy rate exceeds 90%. Corporate landlords will be forced to sell outright, or get their tenants under a land contract instead of a rental agreement. Vacant properties will incur the full wrath of the tax man.
I can only speak of personal experience but I rented when I went to university. I rented during my first 3 jobs. I rented when I relocated to another country. I rented when I was contracting for 6 months in another city (I had already purchased a house elsewhere). In every case I had no intention of buying a(nother) house. I rented because I wanted to, not because of greedy corporate overlords forced me to.
Most people renting are in similar situations. They want to be somewhere for a year or two, to make plans or move on, but not be tied down with debt or obligations if they want to leave. There is nothing stopping them buying a property but there is a commitment and obligation they don’t want to get into.
So rent is not going away any time soon. Legislation is necessary to curb the worse abuses, but pretending people don’t want to rent is is a failed argument.
This is the third time I have pointed out that “land contracts” can fulfill the purposes you are describing.
In every situation you mentioned, a “land contract” would have performed exactly the same function is “renting”.
I understand you:
- Rented when you went to university
- Rented when you took a job
- Rented when you took another job
- Rented when you took a third job
- Rented when you took a contract in another city.
The only difference you would have experienced between “renting” and “land contract” is that the top of each of those five agreements would have said “Land Contract” instead of “Rental Agreement”.
Yes, a Land Contract has additional terms and conditions that only apply if you stay more than three years. You are not obligated to stay those three years. You can unilaterally end the contract before those three years.
You should be able to understand that “Renting” is more convenient for the landlord. Not the occupant. The people who knowingly want “rental agreements” are landlords not tenants. Landlords want to be able to hike rental payments every year; land contracts have the monthly payment fixed from day one. A “rent freeze” is a fundamental component built directly into a land contract.
There is nothing stopping them buying a property but there is a commitment and obligation they don’t want to get into.
“Land Contracts” do not have the additional commitments and obligations you are describing. Those are components of traditional purchase agreements. They are not components of Land Contracts.
Again: You can walk away, free and clear, in the first three years. You have the option of staying longer, in which case your payments begin to generate equity in the property. But you are not obligated to say, and you can also renegotiate the contract after three years if you really don’t want that equity.
(Practically speaking, you would be able to walk away entirely after those three years as well. If you did, your landlord would have to cut you a check to buy out your acquired equity before he could take on another tenant)
So rent is not going away any time soon.
No. “Short Term Housing Needs” are not going away soon. I am not suggesting they should. The need for temporary housing is perfectly reasonable, and I am preserving the means of filling that need, even as I kill “renting”.
Why am I so concerned about land contracts? I’m not. I don’t actually give a fuck about land contracts at all. What I want is for corporate landlords to be assessed property taxes that are so high that they are forced out of the market. The best way I know how to do that is to run up everyone’s property taxes, and exempt owner-occupants from paying them. That tax hike alone is all we really need. To get that tax hike, I have to explain to you that I won’t be cutting off the supply of short-term housing.
“Land Contracts” are what landlords are going to use to adapt to that tax hike. A landlord who tries to “rent” is going to have to pay a massive property tax bill. That same landlord can issue a “land contract” instead of a rental agreement. The monthly payment for that land contract will be lower, but because the property tax hike is exempted for the “owner occupant”, they will actually earn more than they would renting.
Tenants will start earning equity instead of paying everything to a landlord. There will be a “rent” freeze, simply because that is an inherent component of land contracts. Corporate landlords lose their ability to hike rent year after year. Short-term housing is still available. Wins across the board.
Rent needs to die in a goddamn fire.
sounds overcomplicated, why not just rebrand the so called “land contract” into renting?
Because landlords dont want land contracts. They make more on rent.
All we have to do is set up an owner-occupant exemption to a massive property tax hike. Landlords won’t be eligible for that exemption.
Landlords will use land contracts to get around that hike. They’ll be pushing for tenants to become owners in order to avoid the tax man.
So what you’re saying, is you’re renaming the word to “rent” to “land contract” and move a few conditions around and somehow it’s not rent? It is rent, by a different name.
There will always be a market for relatively short term living spaces; a gap currently filled by rentals.
Any person who is not living in a place temporarily, eg, for school or a temporary job posting or something, should have the ability to buy a home at an affordable price, without fail.
The housing market is saturated with house flippers and people with more money than sense looking to become a landlord so they can have an “income property”.
IMO, all rentals should be either run, controlled, or at least strictly overseen by a specific branch of government dedicated to the task. Anyone who wants to become a renter has to get their rental property approved for renting, and approvals only happen if more rentals are strictly required.
Land contracts fulfill the role of short term housing (6-36 months) at least as well as renting, with additional benefits if short term extends to long term. In the short term, there is no significant difference in the two, with the exception of the Owner-Occupant Tax Exemption I have been proposing. That exemption ensures that land contracts will be cheaper, yet more lucrative than renting.
Rent is inherently exploitative. No amount of government oversight can overcome the intrinsic problems with renting. The entire concept needs to be actively suppressed. Government oversight can’t fix the inherently exploitive problems with rent. That’s just trying to polish a turd.
What we need is an economic climate that favors owner occupancy and strongly discourages commercial use of residential property. With that environment, landlords will be fighting tooth and nail to convert their tenants into buyers.
I find it fascinating how nowadays, basic human decency is called “woke” and “communism”.
There’s plenty of studies showing that conservatism, sadism, and psychopathy correlate.
This is one of the main reasons Republicans don’t like education. They want to dismantle it and go to a charter system. That way they can profit off education and keep people stupid.
Should bring actual communism back toexplain the difference.
I think this is why we’ll never have a UBI/leisure society/Star Trek style utopia. We are miserable biological apes and revel in other’s misery.
Fuck that; this aggressively horrible crab bucketing is cultivated. Pretending decades of capitalist propaganda every god damn second of your waking life while you live in a fantasy wirld based on nonsense abstractions is ‘just a staye of nature’ is insane.
And yet, railing against observed reality is …???
Its where we are, and whay has been done, it is tge past we must reckon with, but it is not the default for humanity, and it was wrought by human hands.
If it can be made by us, it can be unmade by us.
Amen brother. Anyone who says “that’s just the way it is” is giving up. That’s not the way it is, that’s the way it was MADE. By powerful evil people, and we can remake it.
Please don’t assume masculinity, but yes.
I would phrase as ‘that’s the way it is because of constant work to make it that way, and it was not and will not always be that way’.
We […] revel in other’s misery.
Well, i don’t.
Fantastic. I’m hungry, when can I come over?
If you’re actually hungry I can help you find food.
It’s the primary symptom of being infected with the broke mind virus, which effectively all republicans suffer.
God forbid someone tries to increase the quality of life for people
All of them are fucking awesome! Sign me up!
see, shit like this is what ended up cementing my opinion as a commie. thats literally fucking awesome.
and its for once, actual communism being described by the chuds.
Because he’s reading from his open positions of awesome stuff
isn’t it kinda funny? dude just reads from a bullet point list and hates the stuff without giving a single thought about it, because he is supposed to hate it.
Love the air quotes around “free” stuff literally everyone needs or benefits from combined with tax hikes.
Yeah, bro, that’s what pays for it, you’ve figured it out! The cunning plot to provide basic social services supported by a balanced budget!
No, communism is moneyless. No minimum wage in communism
you are correct. i was thinking of socialism.
i used the word interchangeably. in my defense i slipped, i try not to.
I don’t care what you call it, I want that. Call it doodoo pickle butting, if it offers that, sign me up for everyone else too.
Thats the thing, im past the stupid naming and everything. I just want policies that help people and not billionaires. Call it marxism, stalinism, whatever the fuck you want.
It’s a pathetic attempt to rile the old people who remember the cold war propaganda against communism and socialism. While young people are like “So what?”
Yeah sadly that doesnt work here in eastern europe because communism and even social democratism(what this actually is) is associated with the ussr which was a truly horrible regime.
I’m surprised it’s not more associated with France since social democracy is what the have going on.
Eastern Europeans are some of the most gullible people on earth. Stalin never even claimed that the USSR had achieved communism, yet somehow every grandma in his “state socialist” empire thinks full communism was reached and the state withered away like Marx predicted. They believe lies he never even told.
I understand that’s the power of propaganda, but damn… It’s been 40 years and most of them never bothered to sit down and learn what a communism is. I can’t imagine being that willfully ignorant.
can’t imagine being that willfully ignorant.
I have some trump supporting neighbors I’d like to introduce you to.
Stalin never even claimed that the USSR had achieved communism, yet somehow every grandma in his “state socialist” empire thinks full communism was reached and the state withered away like Marx predicted. They believe lies he never even told.
He did claim to be communist though - as in, he is ideologically driven to attempt to bring about communism. So calling the USSR “communist” is 100% correct. And naturally, what do you call life under communists? Communism! (This is wrong, but it’s an understandable switch-up).
Well, that’s where I have to disagree with Stalin’s official narrative. I don’t think he was a communist, I think he was an opportunist with no ideology beyond personal empowerment. I think he’d have said he believed in anything if it gave him more power.
Sounds a lot like trump
I have a 20-something son who basically grew up with MAGA shitting on everything. From his perspective ( and his friends), they don’t see anything wrong with trying out Socialism/ Marxism/ Communism. They feel like the current system of “Democratic Capitalism” has led to the rise of vicious MAGA Nazis, and weak Democratic defenders of our Nation, with the majority of Americans suffering to some degree, so why are we fighting so hard to preserve it?
When we emerge from the other side of this, don’t expect America to go back to anything resembling what it was before.
When we emerge from the other side of this, don’t expect America to go back to anything resembling what it was before.
One can only hope so. What we had before wasn’t great either and pretty much lead to how things are now.
Exactly. In a way, we agree with MAGA, it’s time for a change. They took the initiative, and turned the country in their direction, which is evil, by any definition.
The Establishment Democrats were asleep at the wheel while this played out over 40 years, despite many warnings and steady escalations. Now, we have arrived at their Promised Land, and it is as ugly as they promised, and as a student of history, I promise you it WILL get a lot uglier, likely far beyond any of our imaginations.
We can’t return to the Status Quo, because that WAS the problem. We need to create a new Paradigm, one that will not be afraid to ferociously defend Liberty from Traitors, Crooks, and worse.
Call it butt sex and then we can also claim this was the gay agenda we kept hearing about.
And he doesn’t even have the conviction to make the communism fully automated, nor luxury, nor gay. What a disgrace!
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this but unironically
I propose a new rule: if you’re American and wealthy, you don’t get to talk about communism. At all.
I might make an exception for wealthy Americans with an education in politics or economics, or both.
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Another person around your bracket with degrees in philosophy and theology who somehow got sucked into a career in big biz. I’m happy to pay more taxes. And talk about socialism. I completely agree with you.
And where I live in the EU I’m already paying 49% of my income in taxes + 21% VAT on most goods. I’d still pay more if we needed it (even though, like most countries, what we really we need better taxes on the truly wealthy and corporations). Yeah I’m better off than most, but our Gini coefficient means most (although not everyone of course) does ok.
We have nice roads/public transit, good schools, great healthcare. The taxes I and people like me pay are why everyone can have nice things. If people didn’t have nice things I’d be stand right beside them with the pitchforks and torches. I don’t say that lightly; some of the protests I’ve attended in favor of taking in more asylum seekers have gotten nasty.
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You guys (I used to be one of you guys before I immigrated long ago) have some serious structural problems that prevent effective protest.
I posted on Bsky that people in America should call a general strike and keep striking until things get better, but I know damn well that people are rightly very afraid to lose their jobs or be put in jail, even prison. And because your healthcare, mortgage/rent, even keeping your children, every damn thing is tied to being not-in jail/prison and making money, I understand why people don’t get in the streets as much, the most recent, massive nation wide demonstrations - that the media barely covered - aside.
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If you got skilllzzz the place I live has a pretty sweet immigration deal. We have had three American families move into our little neighborhood in the last 18 months using it. DM me if you want to know more.
Conservatives posting his Ws all the time. They’re his best advertisers.
That sounds awesome, thanks Pitbull!
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You are a special kind of stupid (and brainwashed) if you think any of those things listed are bad
And also completely unrelated to Communism.
