It’s stunning how many people seem to forget that there are other countries on the planet that use dollars and weren’t involved in Vietnam. No, I’m not making an assumption. The person who posted this is Canadian.
Y’all really need to take a step back and reflect a little bit.
So you wouldn’t even live to be 60?
My dad was born in 1947. He died a year ago. Lived in my basement for 3 years toward the end, we converted it to a “in-law” suite. Probably spent most of his money on medical bills though because he had an accident that paralyzed half his body.
Anyhow he worked the same job his entire life only worked his way up to middle management at a factory. Prided himself in slacking off his entire career and still did better than I do now and I have to work much harder and have my spouse be employed to pull in what he did alone half-assing it.
So it was different for sure, middle-class was easily achieved if you were a white male. I’d almost say if you were poor you just got very unlucky, were a single mom, or a minority. If you were a white male, you’d really have to be dealt a bad hand in life to not be middle-class.
The bio of old television personalities is always that they took a wrong turn into the BBC reception and got hired on the spot.
This is hyperbole
I don’t think dying at 54 is ideal…
Look at this guy with his “hopes” for a “future”
Look at this edgelord right here in his 20s. This obsession on Lemmy with killing oneself is fucking sick.
I mean okay but this person would’ve been a young adult during the Vietnam war and the war on drugs and died at 53 to avoid the war on terror.
They left out the part about getting drafted and sent to Vietnam with that 3rd grade education and risk dying for people that didn’t care about you and other that hated you. Then coming home and getting spit on, literally spit on, by the people around you. And no one caring about the damage war caused you.
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I know it SAYS they live in Toronto, but they also said “Third Grade” and not “Grade Three”, as would be proper in Canada. Maybe it’s possible they are from the U.S. and currently live in Canada?
It’s almost like sometimes people move…
Are those phrases not interchangeable in Canada?
Saying “# grade” might be more common where I am in the US, but no one would bat an eye if you said “grade #” because that is used commonly enough as well that people are used to it.
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I also don’t know. That’s why it was phrased as a question. I’m not from where you are from. I come from a different country. I asked you a question about a possibility based on my knowledge, and you just tried to gotcha me. What does that do for you? Make you feel superior?
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I’m literally just asking questions. I’m not presenting any evidence, I’m not even really making an argument. I’m just devils advocating your spamming that OP is Canadian just because they live in Toronto. As if everybody who lives in Toronto is Canadian.
Some Canadians live in the U.S. too. There are even people who come from both countries. There are people that have multigenerational history in both countries.
Canadian and American culture are inextricably linked. Being mad at my country doesn’t change that, and that kind of arrogance will only doom you to repeat our failures.
Never heard an old black man say “I wish things were like they were back in the 50s.”
Nope nor a dirt poor white person either. Never forget, it’s all about the money and far less than the color of your skin.
Honestly, when people say that I think they’re referring to the financial system. in the age of surveillance capitalism. and the predatory environments that we live in, there is no protection against corporations from scamming you and nickling diming you from every direction to the point where you’re left with nothing and you are wander on the streets. Decades of not allowing people to repair their own things and following the rule of the lowest common denominator, we are left with a very generic throwaway society. that doesn’t value human skill set, which leaves us all in a sense of hopelessness and helplessness. It’s not that people can’t take care of themselves. It’s just they’re not allowed to, unless the billionaire can get between you and what you need. It seems we are revisiting the 20s and 30s, but only the technofascist version. This is just a continuation of the boom and bust cycle with different flavor.
The poor baby murderers got a little water on them
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There is a persistent myth or misconception that many Vietnam War veterans were spat on and vilified by antiwar protesters during the late 1960s and early 1970s. These stories, which overwhelmingly surfaced many years after the war, usually involve an antiwar female spitting on a veteran, often yelling “baby killer”. Most occur in U.S. civilian airports, usually San Francisco International, as GIs returned from the war zone in their uniforms.
No unambiguous documented incident of this behavior has ever surfaced, despite repeated and concerted efforts to uncover them.
I don’t think he was talking about the protestors…
Vietnam vets and bdsm, name two things that go together better.
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That’s… Dying at 54 years of age?
Did he fucking stutter
This.
You can push it back to 1944 if you’re in the US, the war wouldn’t have impacted you much. You could even push it back to 1940, but there may be some depression era nutrition issues.
That bumps 2001 up to 57. Honestly go for a few more years and retire before '08 and die in 2019 before covid at age 75
Why die before COVID? COVID was honestly kinda okay, if you’re a home body type. I played so many video games, it was glorious.
Being 75 puts you in the choking to death from covid range, no fun.
Looking at the stats, I’d take my chances.
As God intended.
Dying at 54 means you can also live in the bliss of eating red meat, drinking, and ripping cigarettes every day after your 20s.
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and the problem is where? I’m here for a good time not a long time
Made me think of this Irish toast:
“Here’s to a long life, and a merry one
A quick death, and an easy one
A pretty girl, and an honest one
A cold beer - and another one”You can still be happy in your 50s and beyond.
Teach me this skill.
At least until 72 or so. After that it’s iffy.
Eh, my parents are pretty happy in their 70s. They still go skiing, travel a ton, etc. Stay active and your 70s can be quite pleasant.
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Ideally also long.
My grandfather picked tomatoes to buy his house in cash.
He was a hard worker, but damn, imagine buying a house in cash.
Life for seniors is ok. About to get a tax break on SS benefits. Would be 78 this year. Possible to get another 12 years of senior benefits. Trump was born that year, so things can work out past 2001.
You have to be at least middle class and “white”/seen as the dominant demographic for this to work out. Just like every other place and time period.
middle class constraint can be relaxed for hunter-gatherer societies.
Could one feasibly claim that the less hunter-gatherer we are, the less egalitarian we are, societally?
The ideal life is to be born a multi-millionaire, then earn billions by exploiting workers
could you live with yourself though?
If I was born rich, I’d probably have no empathy either.
How are you supposed to develop it?
NOT philosophy, that’s for sure.
Huh? I find it exactly the opposite.
I always thought I would have made a good trust fund baby.
I’d rather be born a billionaire so I don’t have to do shit
My dad bought his house for $650 in 1976, had it moved from the mill village where it was for $2000 and has lived in it on land he was given for 50 years. Its current value is over $225k.
He offered to sell me a quarter acre for $50k.
Sounds like pops is needing slot machine money.
Fyi $650 in 1976 is about $3600-3700 adjusted for inflation.
I am so tired of people presuming that US’s economic history is somehow universal.
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i am here like ok then. go drink your maple syrup i guess. sorry i just don’t understand what you are trying to convey.
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What economy would Canada have without the U.S., honestly? We’re all kind of entangled here in North America. I know you guys are all pissed at us right now, but it was not that long ago that people would call Canada “America’s little brother” endearingly
ok hold on imma fix my comment, so its correct and respects the first worlder outlook on geography.
