The sticker on my battle car
Watch me drive slower than everyone else pressuring them into overtaking me thus increasing the chances of a collision because the government put up a sign that said so.
You’re barely even saving any fuel. Maintaining speed uses much less fuel than getting up to speed, and depending on the gearing and aerodynamics of the car it may even be more efficient to cruise above whatever the speed limit happens to be. You’re probably costing all the people who have to overtake you a bit of extra fuel, though.
Go the common speed as long as it’s within the realm of reason. This is day 1 of driver’s ed, people.
Tell me how “the aerodynamics of the car” somehow just invalidate the drag equation that clearly states that drag increases proportional to the square of the velocity. Going 160km/h rather than 130km/h increases fuel consumption by about 30%. That’s what you actually learn in driver’s ed.
Regarding “depending on the gearing” – do you realize how significant the overlap between the gears is? You don’t need to drive 10km/h faster to get into the next gear.
You can drive a brick, and if you’re in a line of traffic moving faster, your aerodynamics are much different than sitting in the slow lane with nobody in front of you. Drafting is real.
…unless you’re riding the bumper of the car in front of you, drafting effects are negligible, and if you are riding the bumper of the car in front of you then you’re not leaving enough space to panic-stop safely, potentially nor enough space to see beyond them to anticipate traffic ahead, either…
Not true, sorry. I drove 500 miles a night for my job as a courier. I could go 65 and get 27 mpg, if I went 75-80 with traffic I’d get 30-32 mpg depending on how fast the flow was going.
Anecdotal evidence, the best kind of evidence
Better than your bullshit right?
Gearing of transmission and torque or the motor.
My car gets its best fuel economy at 51mph.
You are the worst, please don’t drive.
And if that was the lesson you got on day 1 of your drivers education, go ahead and shoot your driving teacher, before he can spreas more nonsense. This might save a few lifes.
It makes sense when merging onto a highway.
If it’s busy and everyone else is zooming by, merging at a slower speed is dangerous. Speed up, match the flow (even if speeding), merge, then you can ease off to whatever speed you want. This is what I was tought in drivers’ ed, and it makes sense.
Once you’re on the highway though, yeah, it doesn’t apply anymore.
The only thing pressuring them to overtake someone going the speed limit is their own stupidity. It’s not my responsibility to ensure other people aren’t going to kill themselves because they’re irresponsible idiots
Poor guy has blue pee
I mean as long as you’re not sitting in the left lane people should leave you alone
We all know these people live in the far left lane.
the only time you should be going the speed limit anywhere to the left of the furthest right lane is if you’re passing someone who’s going below the speed limit in the rightmost lane
Exactly.
Keep Right Except To Pass.
40 states have “Keep Right” laws. Many of them have “must yield” laws that require slower traffic to move to the right lane if faster traffic approaches from behind. A few states have exceptions where you can use the middle lane temporarily in areas where there is a lot of merging traffic.
There are a shocking number of people that cruise in the center lane slower than prevailing traffic. I don’t get that at all.
40 states have “Keep Right” laws. Many of them have “must yield” laws that require slower traffic to move to the right lane if faster traffic approaches from behind.
It’s a damned shame that they don’t enforce those laws. The highways would be a lot more pleasant if they did. We have habitual very slow drivers in the Seattle area who love to match pace with another slow driver in the right lane, and block the flow of traffic for miles on end, creating traffic jams and general congestion. From a lot of the comments I’ve seen on Reddit and Lemmy, they’re fully aware that they’re inconveniencing everyone, and get some sort of enjoyment and feeling of power from it.
Dude, I thought I was the only one who noticed this, coming from LA!! What the fuck guys, move over!!!
Funny thing is they keep trying to stop me splitting lanes, or honking, when I’m literally 5mph faster than them in almost stopped traffic. Cry about it, I’ll see you at home! Lol
I frequently drive between Philadelphia and the DC area on I-95, and it’s like Bizarro Earth as far as lanes go: the slowest cars are always in the left-most lanes with people passing on the right at 25 mph or more over the limit. My favorite is people who get on the express lanes (which you pay extra to use) and then go 10 mph under the limit.
Stay away from /cars and /roadcam. You’re right, there’s definitely a breed of infallible road warriors that rationalize lots of reasons for ignoring the Keep Right rules.
Exactly. Unless you’re an on-duty officer of the law, it’s not your job to enforce the speed limit. And if you are, please pull people over who violate the “keep right except to pass” rule.
There are a shocking number of people that cruise in the center lane slower than prevailing traffic
These folks frustrate me to no end. Nothing makes me more excited than expanded public transit so I don’t need to deal with those jackasses
…the only time you should be travelling at any speed to the left of the furthest right lane is if you’re passing someone driving more slowly…
But when there’s only one lane on a mountain road and someone is going slow because they are scared of the mountains or scared of a tunnel for some reason…. Like dude pull over and let people pass
Or go take a driver’s training class so you’re not afraid to operate a vehicle in its ordinary manner.
As someone who lives somewhere flat, driving in the mountains is different due to the amount if focus and control I have to put into making sure I’m always in the lane. Going from a slightly curve every 2 miles to a sharp winding bend every 0.1 miles is a huge difference!
Not only that, a cop will probably pull you over for driving too normal.
I know a guy who was straight up pulled over for drunk driving because he was going the speed limit. Cop said that only drunk drivers go the speed limit on that stretch of highway at night.
I’ve heard this from cops I knew, as a more general rule; No one around here drives less than five over unless they are drunk, stoned, or into some shady shit.
Get a motorcycle, fuck speed limits
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The speed limit is what’s enforced here you are totally fine going 10km over the speed limit only excepion is school zones
6.2 miles over huh?
Anything less than 5mph over the cops consider suspicious where I live. 6.2 mph over is slow-lane, but at least reasonable.
Blue piss
If you aren’t passing, get the fuck out of the passing lane. I don’t care if you are going the speed limit, above the speed limit, or below the speed limit, get the fuck out of the passing lane you aren’t passing. Stop being smug that you are going the speed limit and bottlenecking traffic on your ego and follow the actual passing laws. It’s hypocritical to be all fired up about one law and violate the other.
Could be someone slowly passing. Which can cause issues, even if it is totally legal.
…nothing wrong with passing slowly as long as folks merge right afterward…
If someone takes a really long time with it, it can cause a huge holdup which can cause issues.
…if everyone keeps right except to pass, any holdups are only briefly intermittent while traffic as a whole flows at an optimal pace for the road capacity…
…traffic-flow problems come from lazy drivers attempting to passively ride in a steady state rather than actively driving…
I mean passing very slowly as in taking very long time doing it. I’ve seen it, someone passing like 1km/h faster than the car they’re passing. Others will come up behind the first car, want to pass and are stuck driving slow. Not ideal.
1km/h is 28cm /s - they’d take about 25 seconds to pass a car. 25 seconds isn’t all that long
in some cities such as LA, i found it safest to simply drive at the same speed as everyone else. obviously adjust for merging, passenger lanes etc but on those roads being the slowest can actually a danger to yourself and others.
glad i don’t need to do this any more in my current city, just two cents
They teach you in driver’s education that you should match speed on the highway. Otherwise you impede the flow of traffic which causes far more problems.
Yup. If it gets too out of hand, they’ll do a traffic break to slow everyone down. But going a significantly different speed than everyone else is something you try to avoid.
This is exactly what you should be doing. Matching speed with traffic is always the safest option. If you’re going slower than everyone else, you’re creating a hazard, almost as much as if you’re weaving through traffic.
“Having a smoking section on a plane is like having a pissing section in a pool”
People don’t realize that the idea behind that whole campaign was to get people to start ostracizing smokers, and also make the smokers feel ostracized, so that less people would smoke overall. And it worked!
Maybe we should do the same for public pools.
Stealth pissing in the pool can be a bit easier than stealth smoking in a plane lol
Bro, if you don’t like it, just get out of the pissing corner!
Here we’re taught to go with the flow of traffic. It’s safer to go the same speed as everyone else than to be the one car everyone has to go around.
Here we are taught to follow traffic laws. Of course it doesn’t make sense to do that to ridiculous degree but speeding because others are speeding is not something encouraged here. Flow of traffic makes sense if everyone is slowing down, then it’s probably hazardous weather or something.
Where is ‘here’?
Anywhere with sensible traffic schools. Accidents are almost always caused by drivers going 10mph faster or slower than the rest of traffic. Being the odd man out in this creteria is dumber than ignoring some numbers on a sign that everyone else is ignoring.
Just be careful when driving out of state, I got singled out and issued a citation near Las Vegas going the flow of traffic @ 10-15 mph over the limit.
They are counting on you to not show up in court.
Last time(20 years ago) I got a valid out-of-state ticket though, the fees and whatnot were less than 20% of what I expected. One criteria where Illinois is cheaper than Indiana, it turis out.
They do that in small towns on tourist thoroughfares. They know you can’t come back to fight it. I’m a 10-15+ driver normally, but out in the sticks, I try to keep it to +9.
It takes some real mental gymnastics to put the blame for a crash on the driver going “too slow” rather than the inattentive speeding driver who crashed into them.
You think you’re arguing with me, when I’m just quoting Driver’s Ed, and several states’ Driver’s Manuals. Mental Gymnastics? 🤷
No mental gymnastics needed. The laws of physics don’t give a fuck about who obeys the traffic laws and who doesn’t. As long as people keep the same distance between cars we should be safe.
What are you arguing? It’s not the obligation of the driver ahead to make sure the car behind them keep their distance.
Sure, but you can do it by matching the speed of the car behind you, therefore making both of you more safe.
Actually, it is a driver’s job to avoid and/or mitigate a wreck by any means necessary. The only mental gymnastics taking place are yours. You’re arguing against the wording of multiple driver’s manuals.
Yeah nah. Any faster than 100 km/h is already way too fast. I still don’t get how people are more comfortable going over it.
What? On the highway the limit is 110km/h in some places here (divided highway) and it’s pretty standard for everyone to be going 5-10km over the limit.
Well where I am, 100 is the maximum. I think going any faster is pretty dangerous, considering you’re in a big metal casket :/
Also like wearing a mask in public
Problem I have is I’m always going faster than the slow lane, so I get over to pass and of course I’m not going fast enough for those lunatics (don’t worry, I don’t block them, I get back over as soon as it’s safe). Half the time I end up giving up and going slower than I want too just because it’s easier.
The worst. Two lane roads always seem to end up as 5 under or 10 over. I just want to put my cruise control on!
