…nothing wrong with driving as slowly as you want, as long as you keep right except to pass…
Watch me drive slower than everyone else pressuring them into overtaking me thus increasing the chances of a collision because the government put up a sign that said so.
You’re barely even saving any fuel. Maintaining speed uses much less fuel than getting up to speed, and depending on the gearing and aerodynamics of the car it may even be more efficient to cruise above whatever the speed limit happens to be. You’re probably costing all the people who have to overtake you a bit of extra fuel, though.
Go the common speed as long as it’s within the realm of reason. This is day 1 of driver’s ed, people.
My car gets its best fuel economy at 51mph.
You are the worst, please don’t drive.
And if that was the lesson you got on day 1 of your drivers education, go ahead and shoot your driving teacher, before he can spreas more nonsense. This might save a few lifes.
It makes sense when merging onto a highway.
If it’s busy and everyone else is zooming by, merging at a slower speed is dangerous. Speed up, match the flow (even if speeding), merge, then you can ease off to whatever speed you want. This is what I was tought in drivers’ ed, and it makes sense.
Once you’re on the highway though, yeah, it doesn’t apply anymore.
The only thing pressuring them to overtake someone going the speed limit is their own stupidity. It’s not my responsibility to ensure other people aren’t going to kill themselves because they’re irresponsible idiots
Tell me how “the aerodynamics of the car” somehow just invalidate the drag equation that clearly states that drag increases proportional to the square of the velocity. Going 160km/h rather than 130km/h increases fuel consumption by about 30%. That’s what you actually learn in driver’s ed.
Regarding “depending on the gearing” – do you realize how significant the overlap between the gears is? You don’t need to drive 10km/h faster to get into the next gear.
You can drive a brick, and if you’re in a line of traffic moving faster, your aerodynamics are much different than sitting in the slow lane with nobody in front of you. Drafting is real.
…unless you’re riding the bumper of the car in front of you, drafting effects are negligible, and if you are riding the bumper of the car in front of you then you’re not leaving enough space to panic-stop safely, potentially nor enough space to see beyond them to anticipate traffic ahead, either…
Not true, sorry. I drove 500 miles a night for my job as a courier. I could go 65 and get 27 mpg, if I went 75-80 with traffic I’d get 30-32 mpg depending on how fast the flow was going.
Anecdotal evidence, the best kind of evidence
Better than your bullshit right?
Gearing of transmission and torque or the motor.
I tried, for a while, to obey the speed limits and my wife told me “Don’t you see? You’re risking everyone else by driving that slow!”. She was right, but WTF?
What limit? (said a German)
Tbf, this kind of eases the peer pressure. If everybody’s going as fast as they want, I can drive my comfy 110 km/h… Because that’s as fast as I want.
True. I prefer around 100 too most of the time. Though i also sometimes enjoy to pump it to 300. But it’s rarely possible. And beyond that i wouldn’t see happen considering how clogged it always is and how often slowpokes live in the leftmost lane and refuse to use the rear-mirror…
Not sure if i care, i reach home in one piece and more fuel in the tank.
What is safer though? Driving the same speed as the cars around you or have all cars passing you at a higher speed? My guess is the former.
How high is your higher? If 20kmph/30kmph it’s not that much different, if a lot of you people is 60kmph over the speed limit and you expect everyone to follow, you guys should really consider slowing down as a whole. If you rear-ended people driving 120kmph, then i must say, skill issue, you’re probably not driving as safe as you thought you are.
No wonder the toxicity toward bicycle commuter.
I’d love it if most folks didn’t go 10-15kmph faster (which seems to be the standard where I live) than the speed limit, but I have no way of changing their behavior on my own. Me going the speed limit on principle might just make it even more dangerous for me and the rest who are speeding. It might be marginal but it adds up over time.
Pff, whatever. If I’ve got a right hand lane to sit in and let people pass I’ll do 10km/h under the limit (90 instead of 100) and save a non-trivial amount of fuel.
The cost-benefit on that shifts a bit if I need to make a longer trip, but for my usual drives in the 100-200km range that’s an extra 7-15 minutes on a 1 to 2 hour trip, which barely matters.
Time is far more valuable to me than gas. I have no problem with people staying in the right lane though you can drive as slow as you want there. The people who are the problem are the ones who want to get in the middle/left lanes and turn their brain off that’s what causes traffic to back up. IMO police should enforce proper lane usage rather than speed. This would also stop traffic caused by everyone bunching up when they encounter a cop on the highway because they’re scared to pass him.
It’s gotten worse the past few years. Everyone acts like entitled asshats. Middle lane under the speed limit, hammer lane going the same speed as the idiot in the middle lane. Most states it’s illegal to pass on the right so you either break the law or you get to follow someone that thinks they’re more important than you.
Yea, I’ve noticed it more since covid. I was on a fairly long interstate drive yesterday and there wasn’t enough traffic that I should have ever had to do anything beside set my cruise to 80 and go but instead I was having to adjust for about half of it due to people just hanging out in the wrong lanes and yea, there was a lot of passing on the right because they were pacing each other in the left two lanes. Even fucking semis were doing it and they should absolutely know better. It shouldn’t be illegal to pass on the right. It should be illegal to GET passed on the right. If that happens and you’re at the front of the line then you’re fucking up.
It should be illegal to GET passed on the right.
#💯
Totally agree. If it’s possible to pass somebody on the right, that person (the one being passed) is in the wrong lane for their speed.
I say that online and people get combative about it and throw out all sorts of insane scenarios like that changes anything. I still haven’t seen one that makes sense.
It’s amazing, really. Every time you see a pocket of congestion in the freeway, there’s a sedan in the front of it, leisurely driving in the middle lane like they’re the fucking president in their motorcade of one.
The only time I actually experienced this was in the states. Lady doing 5 under in outside lane, big queue trying to get past by pulling in Infront of me (with space.) Had to push past my Britishness to undertake.
It’s crazy when you see people speed and overtake like maniacs just to see that they reached the gas station 20 seconds before you do. I really think it hurts some people’s ego when they have to drive behind someone. “But but, i’m the king of the road…”
I just like to go zoom :(
That said, I slow down to overtake other cars, or around other cars in general.
If I’m not behind you I don’t have to worry about you kicking up rocks onto my car, waiting for you to get off your cell phone at the light, I don’t have to slow down because you can’t handle taking a turn at the posted speed, ect. Yeah, I’ll be the guy in front using my gas for enjoyment and open road. If I cared about fuel economy, I’d drive a prius.
The sticker on my battle car
Look at this loser! He drank a bunch of water and peed in the lemonade pool!
Look at it as practice in creative ways to change lanes
I’m from the UK and this isn’t too much of an issue beyond the couple of usual idiots. Went to the US though and it was insane, we were getting overtaken by school busses going 95. We were at the speed limit and getting overtaken by almost everything.
Every time I go on a road trip here in he US, it strikes me how everybody seems to want to drive the same speed regardless of the speed limit.
Go 65mph in a 55 and I’m one of the slowest cars on the road.
Go 75-77 in a 70 and I’m one of the fastest cars.
You taking 95 mph or kph? Because a bus going 60 mph in a 55 is pretty normal.
UK is MPH
It’s true. Cities set speed limits with the expectation that the average driver will be driving 5-10 over.
I like to imagine he’s actively filtering pee out of the water by sucking it in through his ass and peeing out the filtered water.
Pee is stored in the balls and filtered in the ass.
Problem I have is I’m always going faster than the slow lane, so I get over to pass and of course I’m not going fast enough for those lunatics (don’t worry, I don’t block them, I get back over as soon as it’s safe). Half the time I end up giving up and going slower than I want too just because it’s easier.
The worst. Two lane roads always seem to end up as 5 under or 10 over. I just want to put my cruise control on!
Also like wearing a mask in public
Here we’re taught to go with the flow of traffic. It’s safer to go the same speed as everyone else than to be the one car everyone has to go around.
Here we are taught to follow traffic laws. Of course it doesn’t make sense to do that to ridiculous degree but speeding because others are speeding is not something encouraged here. Flow of traffic makes sense if everyone is slowing down, then it’s probably hazardous weather or something.
Yeah nah. Any faster than 100 km/h is already way too fast. I still don’t get how people are more comfortable going over it.
What? On the highway the limit is 110km/h in some places here (divided highway) and it’s pretty standard for everyone to be going 5-10km over the limit.
Well where I am, 100 is the maximum. I think going any faster is pretty dangerous, considering you’re in a big metal casket :/
Where is ‘here’?
Anywhere with sensible traffic schools. Accidents are almost always caused by drivers going 10mph faster or slower than the rest of traffic. Being the odd man out in this creteria is dumber than ignoring some numbers on a sign that everyone else is ignoring.
It takes some real mental gymnastics to put the blame for a crash on the driver going “too slow” rather than the inattentive speeding driver who crashed into them.
You think you’re arguing with me, when I’m just quoting Driver’s Ed, and several states’ Driver’s Manuals. Mental Gymnastics? 🤷
No mental gymnastics needed. The laws of physics don’t give a fuck about who obeys the traffic laws and who doesn’t. As long as people keep the same distance between cars we should be safe.
What are you arguing? It’s not the obligation of the driver ahead to make sure the car behind them keep their distance.
Actually, it is a driver’s job to avoid and/or mitigate a wreck by any means necessary. The only mental gymnastics taking place are yours. You’re arguing against the wording of multiple driver’s manuals.
Sure, but you can do it by matching the speed of the car behind you, therefore making both of you more safe.
Just be careful when driving out of state, I got singled out and issued a citation near Las Vegas going the flow of traffic @ 10-15 mph over the limit.
They do that in small towns on tourist thoroughfares. They know you can’t come back to fight it. I’m a 10-15+ driver normally, but out in the sticks, I try to keep it to +9.
They are counting on you to not show up in court.
Last time(20 years ago) I got a valid out-of-state ticket though, the fees and whatnot were less than 20% of what I expected. One criteria where Illinois is cheaper than Indiana, it turis out.
“Having a smoking section on a plane is like having a pissing section in a pool”
Bro, if you don’t like it, just get out of the pissing corner!
People don’t realize that the idea behind that whole campaign was to get people to start ostracizing smokers, and also make the smokers feel ostracized, so that less people would smoke overall. And it worked!
Maybe we should do the same for public pools.
Stealth pissing in the pool can be a bit easier than stealth smoking in a plane lol
