people did vote for it when they made you leader but then you abandoned literally all the pledges you ran on to get them to vote for you
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People always say this stuff. Then Labour win and we get things like the NHS or the minimum wage. Next election, they go right back to saying nothing will change. I’m much more interested by the people trying to get things done than the kneejerk cynicism that nothing will happen anyway.
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They might not want those things, but the ‘Captains of industry’ who donated to Labour in 1997 helped deliver those things. And that’s just reality, political or not.
Pretty sure that Labour didn’t deliver the NHS in 1997. What they did deliver was saddling the NHS with billions in PFI debt that has gone a not inconsiderable distance to putting it into the state it’s in now.
They delivered the minimum wage in '97, which is what I was asked about, alongside countless other policies which made the country better.
But of a change in message from “we don’t need you lefties, fuck off and vote Green or whatever”
Labour’s two biggest policy promises are the most ambitious green policies in this country’s history, and the biggest expansion of workers’ rights in half a century, so I don’t see how the suggestion they’re not interested in appealling to the left can be true.
Don’t get me wrong I like those policies, and hope Labour win, but the messaging for the past few years has been very alienating to anyone on the left. When Labour frontbenchers are going out and calling Margaret Thatcher a “visionary leader”, or Wes Streeting blaming “middle-class lefties” for opposing NHS privatisation then it makes you think “maybe they’re not the party I was hoping they were”. These aren’t gaffes, they’re part of a coordinated strategy to target more naturally right-wing voters. Because they don’t think the left have anywhere to go (and they’re right, but they might stay home).
If you select only the messages designed to appeal to the right (to whom they have to appeal if they want to win!), sure. But they’ve also had plenty of leftwing messaging, comparing their plans to Attlee, most obviously. As to Streeting’s comments in particular, it’s the ‘middle class’ bit that’s important: he’s criticising privileged people prioritising grandstanding over getting things done.
More to the point, the policies are much more important than the odd bit of rhetoric.
Wanting the NHS to remain in public hands isn’t a middle-class opinion, it’s a left-wing one. The reason he uses the word “middle-class” is to characterise that argument as one that can only be made by someone in an ivory tower, insulated from the real problems of the world where we have to use private providers. And I disagree with that characterisation: I think that our use of private providers to fill gaps in the NHS has massively increased the cost and only served to enrich the private medical industry. But making that point makes me a middle-class luvvy who doesn’t know the real world, unlike Wes Streeting who has worked in student politics, think tanks and political parties his entire life (apart from that time he was at PwC as a public sector consultant, helping these companies get more of those lucrative contracts).
Wanting the NHS to refuse to use private companies, even if that might mean better outcomes, which is the actual policy and the goal, is a privileged position.
Streeting is not proposing the NHS ‘no longer be in public hands’, so whether views on that are middle class, leftwing or whatever, are not relevant.
Nobody’s asking for worse outcomes - it’s a difference of opinion of what will actually work. Saying people want everyone to suffer so they can have their way is just being disingenuous.
That’s also not a fair characterisation of Streeting’s argument. It’s not that they want people to suffer, just that they’re not exposed to the consequences of the policies they’re advocating.
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So that’s how it works! I’m relieved someone finally filled me in.