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I would rip my screen off the dash
You can’t, they control major parts of the car and cost thousands to replace then they inevitably fail.
It’s over $10k in Australia for a Corolla infotainment system, the cars won’t drive without one, once the infotainment systems die in the future the cars are scrap metal.
Well technically you can block ads as long as your phone or other device that works as hotspot/Wi-Fi tethering has adblocker that runs on root level since car need network to connect it.
On root level adblocker nothing can escape even the sneakiest ads will got blocked (as long as your adblocker has feature like uBlock origin filters & you have matching filters)Pihole at home with a personal VPN (wireguard, tailscale, head scale, etc) that routes all your phone traffic through it.
Works pretty good, and you can always add additional blacklists if something still gets through.
Ad-free but perfect for profiling. This allows devices from the entire network to be assigned to at least 1 person. Wirehuard@home -> pihole (only allow the permitted connections to the device with pihole and no other access in the network) -> wireguard@trustworthyvpn.
Vehicles have their own modems now
Can’t wait for the “the doors will remain locked for the length of the ad” update. /s
Don’t giv’em ideas…
Don’t giv’em ideas…
Just like how tvs, phones and computers won’t stop ads until you make full eye contact with the screen with volume up. It’s not here yet but I bet by 2030 we’ll have must watch ads
I’m walking off into the woods if that happens. Dying in a week can’t be worse than that.
Bold of you to assume there will be any woods by then.
Please insert the verification can into your anus to continue your scheduled programming
Verification rake*
At that point we’re mounting mannequin heads
A few years ago I left Google and ads behind for more privacy and freedom. I’m not having many regrets
“Volume control disabled.”
Then the windows all go opaque so you can’t be distracted by the outside world
Luckily it’s a jeep, so you can just take those off.
The old ones, sure, the new ones would probably have a panic attack and throw an ECU tantrum.
For now, yes.
The horror I felt at reading this, and not in a sci-fi horror way. In a “watching Black Mirror from three seasons ago and realizing this will happen next year” kind of way.
Burn Stellantis to the fucking ground.
I just decided I’ll never buy a jeep.
These kinds of decisions are unilateral. You don’t go in this direction without that being the overarching goal.
Zero tolerance for this shit. Put ads in something I own, and I’ll sell it, trash it, never buy it again.
This should be a death rattle for any brand to even consider.
Fuck Jeep.
But… but Stelantis is working to reduce the frequency of the ads! Don’t you know that the company that implemented this practice is witerawally powerless to stop it, they’re doing everything they can to make this change (that they made) better for EVERYONE, because they understand our frustration and they care 🥺👉🏽👈🏽
What was the one with premium subscription for heated seats? I think it was Mercedes.
…and I think Audi dabbled in this area but backed down.
Ao that’s Mercedes, Audi, and Jeep I’ll never buy from, and obviously Tesla too.
EDIT Oh dear, it’s so much worsethan I knew:
https://www.google.com/search?q=car+companies+with+subscription+services
TOYOTA how could you???
The subscription to heated seats was BMW.
Subaru does this.
The seat subscription? I didn’t know about this
I have to pay for Subaru-brand OnStar before the heated seats are even an option. I didn’t know the seats were subscription when I bought the car, they just said OnStar was free for a year.
Clearly, the problem is that they went with a pure subscription model instead of also having an ad-supported model. Like, supposing that you’re allowed to turn on the seat heater, but then the car starts playing advertisements while it’s running. They could offer a premium heat seater subscription if you want to buy an ad-free experience.
shakes head sorrowfully
They aren’t very innovative.
I hate to make such a sweeping generalization (but here goes!), but many of the Jeep drivers I’ve encountered on the road have already brought me to the same conclusion.
You spelled concussion wrong
I’ll buy a jeep but it will have to be at least 20 years old.
20 is a funny way to spell 40.
Fuck it, I’ll only buy a Jeep that was used in D Day
All right, these are some pretty cool Jeeps.
We used to own a 2008-ish Wrangler, and it’s the single worst car anyone in my family has ever owned. There wasn’t one redeeming quality about this vehicle, except for that it makes you look like an asshole, and I apparently some people are into that
It’s a Jeep thing, you wouldn’t understand.
NFT ducks in a gacha system
Fucking Jeep/Chrysler. Like who keeps buying this garbage?
If someone gave me one, I’d sell it before it had a chance of showing a CEL.
Jeep/Chrysler history: an amalgamation of numerous car companies since the 1950’s, so all sorts of competing design approaches, conflicting engineering, and dead weight.
And I’d love to own a Studebaker Hawk (which was Kaiser before Studebaker).
In my area they have jeep clubs that support the local police. Every Jeep/ Dodge owner around here tries to be a bigger dick. https://www.phillyburbs.com/story/opinion/columns/2016/07/17/215-jeep-crew-shows-support/18142982007/
Jeep still exists?
Ah, just on the screen. If they had those HUD windshield projectors, they could put them on the windshield too. I mean, that’s pretty much just unused eyeball space!
EDIT: The car has an audio system too, and here, the ad-displaying system also controls the audio, so this muting nonsense that one runs into with web browser ads isn’t a problem! They could have ads with an audio component!
I expect someone will start a business to remove that aftermarket
I imagine the manufacturers and their lawyers are why we don’t have greater access to OBDII and CANBUS info.
There’s a number of things I’d love to control via CANBUS, like the remote start system, climate control, etc.
There’s a program called Forscan you can get that allows you to tweak that kind of thing in Ford vehicles. I don’t know if other makes have equivalent software.
I can’t wait for every vehicle to introduce this, thus leading to a perverse incentive whereby drivers go out of their way to avoid stopping as much as possible. How could it go wrong?
That would reduce fuel usage.
I bet that those ad guys haven’t even considered or promoted the fact that they can reduce carbon emissions.
Just sit at the lights with the brake and accelerator pressed at the same time 👍 what could go wrong?
So glad my ‘98 piece o’ junk doesn’t have “infotainment”…
I miss cars that had a standardized compartment slot in the dash that allowed you to swap out stereos. Infotainment consoles are a choppy convoluted mess that distracts way too easily while driving.
So glad I didn’t buy a Jeep.
See, they’re probably just framing it in negative terms. Just has to be presented in the right way.
https://www.telenav.com/blog/why-in-car-advertising-works
Why In-Car Advertising Works
For over two decades, advertising has fueled the online and mobile world. What can it do for your car?
Advertising is worth it to the consumer.
In-car ads are a win-win for drivers and automakers.
In-car ads can also be rather helpful while on the drive.
As a matter of fact, a recent McKinsey Report [Monetizing Car Data, McKinsey & Company September 2016] indicates that most consumers would prefer ads for connected navigation service.
The way to think of it isn’t “ads come up whenever my car stops”, but “ads go away whenever it starts moving!”
Drivers will never see an ad while their vehicles are in motion. Ads automatically disappear whenever the car is moving or when users interact with other in-dash functions. For example, when a driver starts her vehicle, a relevant ad will appear on her dashboard. The moment the driver shifts into reverse to back out the driveway, the ad automatically disappears.
How far up your own ass do you have to be to actually believe that people actually want ads?
This isn’t a new thing because even my decade old Toyota car with the SirusXM car radio automatically switches to the XM 1 radio station that advertises the SirusXM subscription service about once a month ever since I cancelled the subscription a year after the original three month one expired. Fuck that company and their monthly resubscribtion demand letters also!
Hmm. I think that this is maybe kind of a fundamental problem with buying something that you want to keep with attached hardware from a company with a subscription service that you don’t want.
We live in a world of no regulation (or, to be precise, no enforcement on regulations) but…
Holy shit? Stopping is the one time you actually SHOULD look at your infotainment screen to futz with climate control or check how many minutes until the next exit and so forth.