This is not my pic because I forgot to screenshot it when I did it. Microsoft has the hardest captcha I have ever had to complete. This one looks easier but I had a similar one that on my phone the images were too small, not recognizable and were more abstract looking shapes. It was so hard, I failed like 8 times (there were several ‘rounds’) and it almost made me second guess whether I might actually be a robot lol. Luckily, there was an audio version where you have to pick from a number of melody recordings and choose the one that was a pattern. Anyone else have trouble with this?

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    2 months ago

    They should just make a captcha that asks how many 'r’s in ‘strawberry’.

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    I fucking hate captchas with a passion. They make me violent. Captchas should be illegal for the sake of my mental health. As a VPN user I see them 10x more than the average person.

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      Honestly captchas and the enshittification of the internet has completely driven me away from tech. Its become so user hostile that it simply is no longer worth the effort. There have been times where just to access a page I have to do five rounds of captchas.

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        Yeah I feel that. I spend lots of time on my computer offline. I got games, music, movies, even some books. I’m pretty much set. Part of me does want to run away and live in the woods though.

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        Yeah, also, where did all the fun stuff go? Now it’s just rage bait AI generated “articles” that pushes the dopamine button.

        Where are 3D printer projects, robots, science, the arts, longevity science, DIY, and so on?

        Mustn’t we build a new internet without the idea that you should earn a living from whatever you do there?

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    2 months ago

    I recently set up a new GitHub account and it had the same crap. And you have to get 3 in a row correct. I got so frustrated and I was cursing enough that my wife came into my office to make sure I was okay.

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      I know why they do it, just the fact that they seem to be the only ones with a difficult one like this. Some people might not be able to. I could barely see it.

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    Someone shared with me having to calculate the resistance of a resistor once. I sent them the color band chart to figure it out lol

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    I’ve been staring at this thing for like 30 seconds, and I have zero clue what it’s asking you to do.

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        But…9 is on a different orbit. It’ll collide with the teal chess piece. Then we’ll have chess pieces floating in space for all eternity!

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          and if you fail too many times and they collide then you’ll initiate a cascading reaction of ever-more-destroyed chess pieces, invalidating entire orbits, and rendering every possible orbit uninhabitable.

    • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      There is simple arrows at the bottom which changes availiable images. They just change orbits on different images and when it’s in correct orbit click submit

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    Unplug the network cable and reboot. When it asks about an account there should be an option to join a domain. Select that and you can make a local account. *

    *Ms changes this a bit so it may be inaccurate

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      This was for an online service. I don’t want it to be restricted to one device. I was creating multiple accounts so I could have multiple free trials of things not affiliated with MS but had an option to use an MS account to log in.

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    I got this one the other day during a checkout process. This site lost the sale, I couldn’t crack it.

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      That one is terrible. I assume by “object” they mean “dog wearing accessories”. That captcha was made to trick humans.

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      I would have picked the only picture of a dog. Bees and Tapirs/Capybaras don’t seem to fit

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        Me and all my friends agree, but the site did not accept that as the correct answer. I originally took that picture to get a second opinion and make sure I wasn’t going crazy heh. I even tried for a new captcha, and it was still nonsense.

        We did it, we beat AI. And humans.

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    It’s interesting in how it combines three different tests - visualization of both the targets and the field to move them in, comprehension of what the task is, and correct movement. I had to take a second to understand the whole point myself.

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    So, it’s a little known fact that captchas and such like no longer test to see if you can solve something, because the bots have evolved to pass those kinds of tests.

    They also tried to set them up to succeed where humans failed, but then bots evolved to pass those, too.

    So now they look at how you fail or pass, or how you keep trying. Basically, they’re checking if you’re human by seeing how you respond to frustration.

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        well, there’s that too.

        Kind of a “we need to put this out there anyway” kind of thing…

        The way they verify you’re human is how you respond, but they’re also getting you to train AI’s while they do it.

      • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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        That’s a fair point. But I’ve always seen it as a choice (sign in with ms, LinkedIn, google, or fb). Which services (besides Microsoft) require a ms account?

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          Minecraft, as I learned when my ms got hacked and their team couldn’t restore my account to me for some reason

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          I forget the name but I was looking for free versions of no code app builders to make a productivity app of my own and one did not have a way to sign up with any email only sign up with Google or MS. Also had to create this second MS account, triggering this captcha, originally because I was using MS designer to generate free AI images but the fast tokens run out 15 a day. So to exploit AI, I always use multiple accounts and it is an MS service. I have like 10 MS accounts now due to using up the free OneDrive storage plans.

          Edit: I never connect anything to FB. Meta is the only place that knows my real name and info. (Unfortunately). I also don’t have LinkedIn.

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            Ah, that makes perfect sense. Also, with all those ms accounts tied to your IP, I can’t blame them for the verification lol

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              I do it for all free services. Like AI where you have daily limits. I thought about VPN but I don’t have the cost. It seems the only trusted free tier VPN is Proton bc they have a paid plan. I read good reviews and it didn’t seem to slow down anything noticeably.

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                I didn’t mean to sound like I disapproved at all. I’m all for what you’re doing haha I’ve use proton’s free tier. They’re fine. I just don’t really trust any vpn company that’s based in the USA, due to their (completely understandable) requirement to keep USA data collection laws.

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    Pretty sure any decent model could easily solve that anyways. To borrow a quote about bears from the National Park Service, there’s now significant overlap between your dumbest users and the smartest AI.

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      Pretty sure any decent model could easily solve that anyways.

      True, but often these things also track the mouse movements or touch inputs and analyse those to see if they match natural human input or not. Of course advanced AI would be able to simulate proper inputs but most bots today would fail this check.

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      I am usually good at puzzles but this was hard to see on my phone. The pictures were much smaller in my version compared to the image. It wasn’t an intelligence issue, it was a vision issue. Yet, many sites still just use a check box even the bank I work for does. Bigger companies than MS use a checkbox.

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        The checkbox is only the first step. When it’s a google recapcha, cloudflare, etc that have the checkbox, this is the trigger to check. It sees how long since you loaded the page to when the checkbox is checked, how the mouse moved (perfectly straight line or instant jump to position indicates bot), and other info they have about previous visits (they store a cookie on your PC and when you go to another site they know where you have been and can compare that against the much higher risk of a blank slate user or against whether you’ve tried the same form 100 times).

        If you pass that, as 90%+ of users should, then you see no more. If you are like me, you use a VPN and fail the first check and have to do endless recapcha “click on the busses” until you give up and quit the site.

        I hate the google ones. Not only do they make life unbearable for people with VPNs, they use the info about what sites you visit to sell ads. And half the time you don’t even know because the recapcha is the hidden in page one not the one in the form when you click the box.

        The cloudflare ones are nicer. They virtually always pass me even though I’m behind a VPN, and although they technically can track me across sites (and probably do to track threat level), they aren’t in the business of selling ads based on that data.

        I have also generally had a nice experience with hCapcha. And recently I came across one that is using proof of work, mCaptcha - not sure what to think on that as it probably uses excess energy but it’s nice to have your computer sort it out in the background. The idea here is a sort of rate limit. It takes a few seconds to do the work to pass the test (variable difficulty depending on how many accesses are happening on the site - i.e. whether they are under attack), but it all happens in the background while you fill the form in so you don’t notice. It slows down bots but doesn’t really detect them - more of a rate limiter or something designed to reduce the cost effectiveness of bots.

        Thank you for coming to my ted talk.