• bouh@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Trump is not a conservative. Fascists and reactionaries are not conservatives. Far right is not the right, eventhough the right did sliped into far right because of the liberals.

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      13 days ago

      Trump campaigning on conservative values is like Harris campaigning on wealth inequality.

      Instead we got “fuck immigrants” and “gay rights”.

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      13 days ago

      The right slipped into the far right because of the far right. Don’t blame anyone but them for their actions

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        I blame the liberals because they had the power for decades and they are actively supporting the fascists in order to fight the left. They are responsible.

        But as always liberals will always, always pretend nothing is their fault. They took all the decisions for a century, but somehow they shouldn’t be accountable for the problems they brought on the world. They’re spoiled children if you ask me.

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          13 days ago

          Fascists are responsible for fascism. Could others have stood up top them? Yeah that would be nice. Did they cause it? No of course not!

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              13 days ago

              That is the most stupid thing I’ve read today. Granted it’t not even half one in the morning but it’s gonna be a high bar to bear

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        13 days ago

        The Democrats did spend years funding the most extremist opponents in their elections to set up easy wins for themselves. A lady even wrote a book about how she won her election this way.

        And then she lost to that extremist the very next election.

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            13 days ago

            Don’t misunderstand me, I agree the extremists are responsible for their actions and the extremism. But there are other factors that led to those views being pushed into mainstream politics. The Democrats didn’t help things by funding extremist candidates for the easy win in the same way that the Republicans breeding their core voting block of “I’m a Republican, I vote for the nominee” cultists didn’t help when Trump stole them from less extremist candidates in the primary. Like how TV channels choosing to air 30 minutes of Trump’s empty podium instead of Bernie’s speech during the Democratic primaries didn’t help run a fair primary that year.

            Extremists are responsible for their actions, but those who help to push their views aren’t spotless.

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                13 days ago

                Every accusation is an admission.

                Stop deflecting by pretending that there’s no greater issue than just the extremists. The rot’s just gonna come back if we don’t stop it at the source after we deal with the cancer in front of us.

                Or are you incapable of thinking about what happens after the extremists are dealt with.

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                  12 days ago

                  AFTER is the key word here. Stop trying to find someone else to blame and look directly at the people who are to blame

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                    12 days ago

                    Where did I ever say otherwise? No need to be so defensive. The extremists are obviously the priority, and anyone who says otherwise is either ignorant or a patsy, but we can’t forget those who spread their message. The cultists today, the enablers tomorrow. Gotta keep the big picture in mind so we don’t lose momentum or get complacent after the short-term victories.