The state governments exist only to decide “small” local matters.
You forgot the long fucking history of states butting heads with the feds in everything from police jurisdiction to road quality. Just because the feds are “in charge” does not mean they are in control.
And don’t have their own armed forces.
Wrong. National guards are literally state funded militaries, on state or federal orders, depending on what they’re doing. They don’t go on federal orders without state approval first though.
I honestly fear that our military will do something like this. There are a LOT of chuds in the military.
It more depends on whichever military general decides to do than anything else. They can and have told Trump to fuck off (before losing their careers, but still stopping the orders) in his past presidency. The average soldier can’t do shit to change federal policy.
It’s going to be miserable for a lot of people in the next four years, but civil war would destroy practically everything. It for goddamned sure wouldn’t have any clear winners either. Nobody sane wants that.
Although originally state entities, the Constitutional “Militia of the Several States” were not entirely independent because they could be federalized. According to Article I, Section 8; Clause 15, the United States Congress is given the power to pass laws for “calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.” Congress is also empowered to come up with the guidelines “for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress” (clause 16). The President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the state militias “when called into the actual Service of the United States.” (Article II, Section 2).
The traditional state militias were redefined and recreated as the “organized militia”—the National Guard, via the Militia Act of 1903. They were now subject to an increasing amount of federal control, including having arms and accoutrements supplied by the central government, federal funding, and numerous closer ties to the Regular Army.
The state’s national guard would only listen to the president if they view hin as legitimate. If the presidebt start saying: “I’m declaring martial law and ordering the arrest of these lawless democrat thugs to restore law an order” the state national guard would probably go “wait wtf?”, then the Democratic Governor will declare those orders unconstitutional then tell the national guard to refuse federalization and listen to the state. Then the real test is to see who they listen to. That could decide the fate of the country.
You know, not every memberbof military voted trump. And even for those who did, they are just useful idiots who actually are stupid enough to believe that trump is good for the country, they might not realize he’s actually trying to end democracy, they are just that dumb. My hope is that they will eventually realize it when trump start giving orders like “Kill Everyone Who Disagrees With Me” and refuse those orders.
You forgot the long fucking history of states butting heads with the feds in everything from police jurisdiction to road quality. Just because the feds are “in charge” does not mean they are in control.
Wrong. National guards are literally state funded militaries, on state or federal orders, depending on what they’re doing. They don’t go on federal orders without state approval first though.
It more depends on whichever military general decides to do than anything else. They can and have told Trump to fuck off (before losing their careers, but still stopping the orders) in his past presidency. The average soldier can’t do shit to change federal policy.
It’s going to be miserable for a lot of people in the next four years, but civil war would destroy practically everything. It for goddamned sure wouldn’t have any clear winners either. Nobody sane wants that.
Although originally state entities, the Constitutional “Militia of the Several States” were not entirely independent because they could be federalized. According to Article I, Section 8; Clause 15, the United States Congress is given the power to pass laws for “calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.” Congress is also empowered to come up with the guidelines “for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress” (clause 16). The President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the state militias “when called into the actual Service of the United States.” (Article II, Section 2).
The traditional state militias were redefined and recreated as the “organized militia”—the National Guard, via the Militia Act of 1903. They were now subject to an increasing amount of federal control, including having arms and accoutrements supplied by the central government, federal funding, and numerous closer ties to the Regular Army.
The state’s national guard would only listen to the president if they view hin as legitimate. If the presidebt start saying: “I’m declaring martial law and ordering the arrest of these lawless democrat thugs to restore law an order” the state national guard would probably go “wait wtf?”, then the Democratic Governor will declare those orders unconstitutional then tell the national guard to refuse federalization and listen to the state. Then the real test is to see who they listen to. That could decide the fate of the country.
Who did every active duty and veteran you know vote for, again?
You know, not every memberbof military voted trump. And even for those who did, they are just useful idiots who actually are stupid enough to believe that trump is good for the country, they might not realize he’s actually trying to end democracy, they are just that dumb. My hope is that they will eventually realize it when trump start giving orders like “Kill Everyone Who Disagrees With Me” and refuse those orders.
I hope you’re right. I suspect you’re wrong.