The Biden administration has told key lawmakers it is sending a new package of more than $1 billion in arms and ammunition to Israel, three congressional aides said Tuesday.

It’s the first arms shipment to Israel to be announced by the administration since it put another arms transfer — consisting of 3,500 bombs — on hold this month. The administration has said it paused that earlier transfer to keep Israel from using the bombs in its growing offensive in the crowded southern Gaza city of Rafah.

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      Genocide Joe is a fascist con-man. Anyone defending this is a hardcore tankie.

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    I’m so very confused by this situation. For those who are against supporting Israel. Can you explain to me rationally why you think Hamas doesn’t deserve to be wiped out after Oct 7th? I’m not denying the civilian casualties I agree it is unacceptably high But that doesn’t caragotize what’s happening as a genocide. But Hamas has said they want a high casualty rate they are using their civilians as human shields. Would you really suggest Hamas should just be able to get away with Oct 7th because they are hiding behind their people. Like what is your answer if you were the one making the choice here? Please I know this is an inflammatory topic but I promise I’m only trying to understand your opinion on the matter.

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      Can you explain to me rationally why you think Hamas doesn’t deserve to be wiped out after Oct 7th?

      You want me to explain why a foreign government shouldn’t be “wiped out” for a war crime?

      By that logic, why shouldn’t Israel’s government be “wiped out” for the attacks on civilians leading up to it?

      Or at least for their actions after it where they killed 10x more civilians and destroyed billions in infrastructure?

      And that’s not even getting into how Israels government draws no distinction from someone who lives and Gaza and belongs to Hamas.

      Your logic just doesn’t seem to be consistent, and you’re focusing on the one time Hamas did anything comparable to how Israel has treated Palestinian civilians over 70 years…

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        Burning babies in their cribs and slaughtering mothers in front of daughters is not a valid form of protest.

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          So why didn’t we do anything when Israel is doing even worse?

          Literally, right now they’re doing worse to a lot more people…

          And before 10/7, they were still doing worse to even more people…

          So why focus on that one day and ignore literally everything else?

          Like, you realize the people from Hamas on 10/7 are the families of Israels prior victims?

          If Israel is justified in what they’re doing because of 10/7, why wasn’t 10/7 justified?

          If none of it is acceptable, why are you only focusing on the one day Israel’s were the victim over every other day they were the attackers?

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            Sure, so you want to treat this conflict like it didn’t start on 10/7. Ok.

            Do you believe that the 20 year campaign of suicide bombing perpetrated by Palestinian militants was a valid form of protest? Did you grow up seeing the charred skeletons of buses on TV? Did you know that this terror campaign was so vicious that Israel had to forcibly relocate Jews that had lived in Gaza their entire lives, who’s families had lived in Gaza for generations? Would you define this as ethnic cleansing by Palestinians?

            Do you believe that the Yom Kippur war surprise attack was a valid form of protest? Did you know that the Arab countries position was to refuse any peace deal with Israel, even when they were offered the return of the Sinai and the Golan?

            If you think that Israel has a responsibility to ensure aid enters Gaza, then surely you believe that closing the Suez to Israeli shipping was a casus belli for the 6 day war?

            Do you believe the attempted genocide of Jews by their Arab neighbors in 1948 was a valid form of protest? Do you think that Arabs have the right to enforce a racially pure population? Have you thought about why 20 percent of Israelis are Arab? Is it possible that these were honest folks who did not attempt to commit a genocide against Jews?

            Have you stopped to think why Jews, who have existed in the area for thousands of years, no longer have extant populations in Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Yemen, or Iraq? Have you considered the possibility that they were ethnically cleansed by their Arab neighbors? Have you heard of the Farhud? Do you have any idea what you’re talking about?

            Edit: the instant downvote without any rebuttal demonstrates how inconvenient the truth is pro-Hamas supporters.

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              Only the desperate do suicide attacks. It’s sad that they even have to resort to such things. They weren’t militants. I heard some of them were young adults who had nothing else to live for.

              They couldn’t attack anyone if their land wasn’t stolen.

              Jews still exist in Iraq. Israel pretended to be Arab terrorists and tried to trick them into becoming Israelis. It didn’t work. Israelis allies made Yemen HELL for everyone. That’s when Israel capitalized and took in Yemeni Jews. Israel absorbed the Levantine Jews.

              France helped with the Suez Canal thing. They knew they will betray Egypt. Israel’s creation was a giant backstapping. At every step.

              I know you drunk the koolaid as soon as you mentioned Arabs have cleansed the area of Jews. The real truth is the Arab culture absorbed everyone in the region. The Philistines, Judahites, Isrealites, Arameans, Lihyanites, etc. You clearly have been forced fed lies and propaganda your whole life.

              Also, stop crying about down votes when talking about a sensitive issue. Are you really going to break down every time the rain of lies that makes up your upbringing gets challenged?

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                Wow not even trying to hide the Nazi ideology anymore with the “stab in the back” rhetoric? Real mask off moment.

                In 1947 there were 156,000 Jews living in Iraq. Today there are three. Just like #Pallywood, you lie through your teeth.

                You spout this nonsense about false flag attacks yet provide no proof. This is the exact same nonsense as Kristallnacht. Funny enough, the Arab world embraced Nazism whole cloth. “Religion of peace”.

                You say that the land in Israel was stolen. You also say that Yemeni Jews were forced to relocate to Israel. How are both possible? The amount of mental gymnastics to try to rationalize the pro Hamas position is insanity.

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                  Wow, I did not reliaze there was an Israeli operation to also move all of the Iraqi Jews to Israel. So, Israeli has now relocated all Arab Jews which lasted till… the formation of Israel. Where is this Arab cleansing? The Israelis cleansed the Arab lands of its Jews.

                  You say that the land in Israel was stolen. You also say that Yemeni Jews were forced to relocate to Israel. How are both possible?

                  What is the conflict here?

                  Did you know Germany had to make an official statement to correct Isreal. Israel tried to blame the Holocaust on the “Sharif of Jerusalem.” Germany said (about a month ago), “No, that was us.”

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    Jesus tapdancing christ he just can’t fucking help scoring an own-goal. What the actual fuck.

    I’ve been trying to be as magnanimous and politically pragmatic as I can, but this is straight up idiotic. Come the fuck on, Biden. You are going to throw the whole fucking election if you keep this up.

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    Weekly Biden gaslighting complete, quick ship some $700m in tank shells they ran out shooting at tent camps in Rafah!

    The package disclosed Tuesday includes about $700 million for tank ammunition, $500 million in tactical vehicles and $60 million in mortar rounds, the congressional aides said. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss an arms transfer that has not yet been made public.

    So that’s 1.36 Billion.