• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    elive

    you think a distribution that automatically includes all the proprietary stuff that we use baked into the distro would be more popular since it makes linux ready to go for most people; but it still gets fewer than 300 clicks per month.

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    I imagine there was a time when this wasn’t obscure, but I’m guessing people today don’t remember Caldera OpenLinux. That was the first Linux distro I installed/used. A guy from church gave his copy.

    Caldera eventually became SCO. But I’m pretty sure I was using Caldera OpenLinux before the whole Novell patent suit thing.

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      Speaking of old, dead distros, my first Linux – sort of – was TurboLinux 6.0. I say “sort of” because I never successfully got it to install and run. : (

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      Yes, particularly the variant distributed on a business-card sized CD rom. To be carried in your wallet for emergency use.

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      Oh jeez. I forgot about that. I had that running on my DS back in the day from a GBA flashcart with a big-ass CompactFlash card sticking out the bottom. Good times.

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      Wait… they’re militant enough about Free Software to refuse to package anything even slightly non-Free, but their “final goal” is to switch the kernel to BSD (i.e. away from copyleft)? WTF?

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        but their “final goal” is to switch the kernel to BSD (i.e. away from copyleft)?

        HyperbolaBSD is a hard fork, that relicenses the OpenBSD kernel as GPL (as permitted by permissive licenses.)

        HyperbolaBSD has already dug into the OpenBSD source tree and discovered numerous licensing issues.

        https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/documentation/todo.git/tree/openbsd_kernel-file-list-with-license-issues.md

        HyperbolaBSD will be a truly libre distro that takes advantage of copyleft, while moving away from the major issues Linux is stepping into too.

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          Ah, that’s different then!

          Hmm…

          From https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en%3Amanual%3Acontrib%3Ahyperbolabsd_faq:

          HyperbolaBSD is under a progressive migration by replacing all non GPL-compatible code. It will be replaced with new compatible code under Simplified BSD License. We do this in order to incorporate GPL code from other projects such as ReactOS, as well new code from scratch.

          It’s not clear to me that relicensing the existing code to GPL is what they’re planning on doing; it sounds more like they’re going to mix in GPL code but not change the existing files to GPL en masse after they finish harmonizing them to two-clause BSD.

          Frankly, IMO that’s too bad: I’d love to see them make the whole shebang GPLv3-or-later


          Related question: is all Linux kernel code required to be licensed GPLv2-only, or are individual contributions allowed to be GPLv2-or-later? I’d be nice to see if that project (and stuff like HURD and ReactOS) could benefit from at least some Linux contributions, even if they can’t copy it wholesale.

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        It’s an ancient divide in parts of the FOSS community that believes copyleft licenses are not “free” because they force you to license contributions under the same license.

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          Yeah, I know, but I would’ve expected a distro that describes itself as “GNU/Linux-libre” would fall on the other side of it!

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      Certain things? Fucking luddite idiots don’t package 99.9% of software.

      AIX Unix from the 1980s is literally more useful than that heap of garbage

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        Why so much rage?

        Yes, Hyperbola is very ideological and super strict, but it was always meant to be that way - to provide a system that works in some way and at the same time is as ethical and “clean” as possible. Some people value it over anything, and for them, Hyperbola is a good pick.

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      was that translated into english from another language?

      I love how they blended FAQ with meth-induced psychosis rambling.

      I’ve gotta give them kudos for sticking to their very strict values, but holy hell is this hard to parse

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    Sabayon Linux

    I used it for a few years, great distro. I think it’s dead now.

    also Funtoo Linux, but i never really used it

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      I worked on that.

      It was SuSe with any branding or tools ripped out, the carcass kicked over the fence for the rest of us to try to make an OS out of.

      It had no chance. What we got was a bleeding corpse after SuSE had a sellable product to compete against us all with.

      It killed turbo, it killed conectiva and it killed openlinux. Horrible thing.