This doesn’t apply here. Removing this post soon, so people, have your final piece now
Please see this thread for what kind of content you should aim to post
I’ve looked a bit through your profile and i think i found a tankie in denial, 99% of your content is shit takes and antisemitism, not understanding capitalism, the difference between rich and poor, geopolitics and what not. Wow, and you call me a “tankie”
With all due respect, find yourself a way out, get a lemmygrad account and never interact with us evil people again.
You don’t understand, 40 trillion people died
Actually those are Hamas numbers, only 40 people died.
Basically.
Immediately asking for sources instead of simply looking outside of ones tankie echochamber for a change…
Also, that sealion comic comes to mind.
Bro im one if the biggest anti tankies here. Tankies aren’t in favor of Israel, they say “Israel is imperialism and must be abolished so we can see all the jews die just as daddy Stalin wanted”
At best im a social Democrat, i literally told the OP to go make himself a lemmygrad account spitting terrorist propaganda.
That guy is not a tankie tho? Do you have some actual proof he is tankie?
He is just an Israel shill and a genocide apologist.
Loves running around fediverse endlessly crying about “antisemetism” while promoting killing Palestinians.
Classic Israeli supporter.
Im not im literally anti communist.
So you’re auth-right then?
I am admittedly being lax with the definition, but they are certainly defending an authoritarian state and their atrocities committed in service of an ideological state project.
but they are certainly defending an authoritarian state and their atrocities in service of an ideological state project.
that’s just a generic authoritarian. tankie specifically shill perverted version of communism based on Lenin/Stalin/Mao, excusing their crimes and glorifying history of USSR as something that was good.
They do side with Palestinians on this issue, mainly because Israel is supported by Imperial US.
Idk, I guess I don’t see the point of the distinction, they’re both still defending authoritarian atrocities along ideological lines.
Unless the point is that they’re nominally communist and that somehow makes them uniquely or especially bad?
If that’s the case then it more seems like we’re being selectively critical of communism, not authoritarianism.
tankie is has a specific meaning, ie a communist who will enforce his will with a barrel of the tank, refering when USSR invaded its EE satellites to prevent popular liberalization.
what makes them bad is justifying state violence.
communism is a separate topic from the tankie imho. they are just parasites shilling foreign state actors narratives or larping because life in williamsburg is too good.
ie a communist who will enforce his will with a barrel of the tank
Sure, but how is that meaningfully different than a Zionist enforcing his will with a barrel of a tank?
Zionists don’t enforce their will with the barrel of a tank. They protect their nation with the barrel of a tank. Big difference.
Ya know what, you’re right, that’s exactly what this looks like now that you mention it
Bro being on this community and not even understanding what a tankie is…
🤡
Tankie pretends to follow the Marxist-leninist school of thought… however, they are not very good at actual marxism, they prefer that hard metal style communism and propaganda.
Israelis pretend to follow the old bible.
We might disagree on what counts as meaningful.
The distinction matters, that’s why it’s a whole separate word.
We it certainly does seem to matter a lot to capitalists, i’ll give you that.
Mainly because “the jews sided with the capitalist” Stalin literally committed a second holocaust and pushed the “anti imperialism” theory where Israel is a colonial state and shit like that, most people in Israel are natives or refugees that have feed other countries where they haven’t been save anymore. There is a reason why the only jews in middle-east are in Israel or in their Army/Government
a second holocaust
what are you relying on to make this claim?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union
Its not just the German Nazis that hated the jews, actually all of the world hated and most still hate them. The Nazis where just the worst so far by putting it on industrial scale “extermination camps” (the actual translation for Concentration camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau, in German they where called “Vernichtungslager”)
so this shit again…
Stalin kills millions of people but has anyone thought about the jews 🤡
What? The Nazis also killed many others i seriously don’t get your bullshit here. Everyone with a little history literacy knows about the holodomor, or what the Soviets did to eastern Europe in general, there are literally reports that the average person was better off under the fucking Nazis, im not going to judge on that im not from that time gladly. Whats your point here?
The 100 million dead
not defending the 40k number by any means because no one really can source its information correctly, but the reason why a decent chunk of the deaths in palestine are children is because the average age of Palestinians is very low (~18), so in terms of wiping various buildings down via explosives statistically speaking, there will be people under 18 in that explosion.
how many of them are under 10 will be a TBD state till after the conflict, but its definitely reasonable to assume a chunk of minors died in the conflict simply by law of averages and how the targeting is done.
There are a bunch of reasons why the death toll is so hard to pin down, but a big one is that Israel has been denying access to Gaza for most journalists, as well as a suspiciously high death rate among journalists who have been allowed in. The few that are allowed inside are escorted by the IDF and aren’t allowed to venture outside their supervision.
That said, the most recent reporting from Gaza suggests that the official numbers are being wildly under reported, and could be as high as 118,908 or greater.
All of which is utterly unsurprising, considering the vast majority of bomb targets have been civilian buildings and infrastructure (Hamas is always lurking somewhere inside, apparently), and that ~60% of Gaza has been damaged or completely destroyed.
You should study the Warsaw uprising. That’s the situation in Gaza. Everybody knows somebody in Hamas or affiliated with Hamas. Because Israel effectively sealed off the strip and closed all of The crossings years ago, the only way to get goods in and out is underground tunnels that lead into Egypt. Those tunnels are owned, operated and controlled by Hamas. This forced necessary daily goods to be moved underground through those tunnels as well. That commerce enriches Hamas. It also makes them indispensable to the community. So there is a large amount of the population that deals with them on a weekly or daily basis. Not all of them are fighters but they’re all affiliated. Israel has mostly forced them into that situation. So yes they are firing on Hamas members. However, they also forced a large amount of those people to become Hamas members. It’s a real damned if you do damned if you don’t situation because you’re an acceptable casualty. If you’re a bystander and they hit someone that is a Hamas member.
Which is why the only way to ever start unfuck this situation is to provide an economic base and opportunities for the people there some magical organization to provide employment in education and not be biased to the population and not to be influenced or run by Hamas or its affiliates. If only there was a super rich oil Nation right there that believes in most of the same things as the people in Palestine that could help their brothers out.
That’s just not true, i was in gaza before the war, there was a fucking luxury car shop, they had everything and lived like normal people shure, not as good as in Israel but that was the fault of hamas and you for shure where able to cross the fucking border, many Palestinians worked in Israel.
What you are saying is absolutely mind-blowing amounts of bullshit. Those tunnels where only used by hamas and mostly for weapons.
Also, most people have family members that are hamas terrorists, a large proportion of the people in Gaza hate them but at the same time are afraid to be killed by them.
Stop spreading lies.
No, what’s happening in Gaza is nothing like the Warsaw Uprising.
Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Pulled out every single soldier and uprooted 9000 settlers. The people of Gaza responded to that act of good faith by putting Hamas in charge. Hamas violently overthrew their political rivals, murdered them all, and then began launching rockets into Israel. That’s why Israel implemented a blockade and fenced the place in. And Oct 7, 2023, was a demonstration of exactly why that was necessary. That attack would have happened much earlier and on a much larger scale if there were no blockade in place.
No he can not, some people keep making up numbers, there are no independent reports, actual evidence shows that the Gaza ministry of health numbers are almost certainly made up https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers
They also include hamas fighters as civilians and people being starved to death by Hamas as Israels fault. https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/palestinian-territories/1702285314-caught-on-camera-hamas-terrorists-steal-humanitarian-aid-beat-civilians https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/24/nyregion/hamas-gaza-aid-unrwa-lawsuit.html
Oh and its a fact that a organization on democratic values wich is majorly run by undemocratic and antisemitic people (most countries in UN are not democracies and most of these not democracies are obviously antisemitic) its also a fact that UN doesn’t even do its job, hezbolla isn’t allowed im the south, as per UN security Council resolution.
As you can see they are where they cannot be, and they are there to kill jews.
Oh BTW, did you know that hezbolla and Hamas use child soldiers and strap explosives to children? Isis did that as well, the Taliban also, ask some veterans from these wars, they are all over the world and will approve that.
40K is the official figure based on body count is my understanding, the actual number is deff above, we just don’t know how much. Israel is not permitting access and bulldozing shit left and right to cover up the real numbers as we speak.
real number or something statistically close will need to be calculated without a body count. that’s a feature of the genocide thing… if you think about it.
started with 2million so like 80-100k 4-5% dead is my guess so far.
Its not you are spreading Desinformation the “official number” is the number the hamas ministry of propaganda made up. Imagine being stupid enough to believe that shit.
this is what american fake news is reporting lol
trust me… this is the lowest regime whores could go before going full 🤡 status.
so 40k is the lowest… time will tell what the true number is but it sure as fuck aint going down nor stopping.
there are no independent reports, actual evidence shows
Wait, there’s something wrong with this but I just can’t put my finger on it
No independent sources for total numbers.
Clear Evidence that hamas is making up numbers.
See how it works when you work with facts and evidence?
I said it before, the education in “midwest” might be lacking geopolitics and history.
Might be easier to have independent sources if Israel let them in without shooting them?
Ah yes shure! Funny that CNN WAS with Israel (IDF) and didn’t come back because the situation was to hot for them.
But again “the jews kill our journalists” shure bro, shure.
Lmao, they only were allowed to go while being escorted by the IDF, and were only invited because they’re already a pro-isreal rag. They might as well have been Tucker Carlson getting a tour around Moscow
By the same standard aljazeera is an independent news org.
I can’t put my finger what is going on here… but are we moving definition of a child to under 10?
Also, is it acceptable to that half of dead are children if half of Gaza are under 18?
This is weird ass comment lol
If anyone wants to read the posts and context
I thought tankies generally liked to point out the hypocrisy of the Western “rules based order” and generally took the side of Palestine or even Hamas in this conflict?
This looks like garden variety hasbara to me.
Yeah shure the jews are behind everyone defending Israel with facts… Questionable way of thought but mind to explain?
The fact is that multiple third parties, including the UN, have confirmed the countless atrocities being committed by the IDF.
The fact is that Israel has murdered a considerable number of aid workers from said third parties.
The fact is that the IDF is trying its damndest to keep aid from getting to civilians in Gaza, so they can continue their ethnic cleansing.
The fact is that the ICC is seeking an arrest warrant for Netanyahu for these crimes.
The fact is that in a just world, there would be a NATO coalition bombing the IDF into the fucking dirt right now like we did with Milosevic’s Yugoslavia.
Bro you trolling.
Btw, a arrest warrant is issued before a trial, not as a result, the willing full misinterpreting of a court ruling is what got you here. The court ruled that what Israel is accused off qualifies for a trial at ICJ, not that it did that.
But keep trolling.
I am with this person on this
Yeah that guy’s shitty but he isn’t a tankie. More of an alt righter
Sorry I downvoted your comment about liking this comm last week, you don’t have to have piss fit and pretend to not know what the word tankie means about it
“Tankie fuckwad archomrade doesn’t understand the meaning of words, news at 11”
I say “doesn’t understand”, but of course, as Sartre pointed out, fascist cunts don’t believe in the meaning of words, only in pursuing their own fascist goals by whatever abuse and disingenuous misuse of language they can get their hands on.
As long as we’re calling out the abuse and disingenuous misuse of language, maybe we should examine your use of the word ‘fascist’
Tell me more about how tankies hitting 12 out of 14 points of Umberto Eco’s ur-fascism is totally not-fascist. /s
Sorry, maybe I misunderstood you. It really seemed like you were calling me a fascist cunt
Well, I’m calling you a tankie, and tankies are fascist cunts. So yes.
Whoops, missed the part where you justified the use of the terms ‘tankie’ and ‘fascist’ again, maybe you hit reply before finishing on accident
Whoops, missed the part where you justified the use of the terms ‘tankie’ and ‘fascist’ again, maybe you hit reply before finishing on accident
lol
ah, well, I tried
