By that I mean no alienating tech like Tiktok and such, strong middle class, normal seasons/no worry of climate crisis, general optimism about the future etc. etc.
By that I mean no alienating tech like Tiktok and such, strong middle class, normal seasons/no worry of climate crisis, general optimism about the future etc. etc.
Not a USA-ian, but weren’t issues like racism and homophobia worse off then?
Definitely, but if the recent spike we’re seeing keeps going we should be well on our way to 80s and 90s levels by next year!
Right. We have to regain the good without losing our progress.
Except that there’s basically no good.
…the rights that people have gained in the last 30 years? Like gay marriage?
Climate crisis.
Climate crisis.
Climate crisis.
Ozone hole anybody? The climate crisis existed back then, do you think it suddenly popped into existence? It has existed since the second Industrial Revolution, it just got progressively worse
The 80s and 90s still had a relatively normal situation, that’s what I’m saying.
You want to go back to (nonexistent) 80s climate policy?? I don’t think you’ve thought this through.
No, I want to go when seasons were normal and we didn’t feel the effect of climate crisis.
Sorry, I left my magic wand in my other pants…
Ah, so I should just accept being born into a shit time? That’s what you’re saying?
Ok. Which is why I said, we need to go back to the good, while keeping the progress we made. You asked about the progress. This is the progress I meant.
Climate crisis is worse.
“I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at climate crisis!”
“You can excuse racism?”
Nowhere I said that I excuse racism (as if today racism didn’t exist…)
Well, it seemed like you were saying that if given a choice between more racism and more climate crisis, that you would choose more racism because of how “climate crisis is worse”. Don’t you think that’s at all a weird or uncomfortable thing to say, given how there’s a frightening number of people nowadays who genuinely are trying to present “more racism or more climate change” as an actual choice that people will have to make?
Because civil rights won’t be worth shit when everything burns.
Yeah, but we talked about it way less, so it didn’t seem like a big deal.
/s?
Man, I am much more worried about climate crisis and not being able to buy a house.
You can worry about two things. You know, if you want.
Yes, but again, life was better because of what I mentioned in the post.