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No wage. Only work.
That’s the way it works? Starting out, entry level job? Get entry level resposibilty, and entry level pay. Same for midlevel, and senior positions. But this breaks down once you get to the executives. It seems like the less experience you have, better pay
Where did you read this is for an entry level job?
Idk how it is for other industries, but we Software Engineers usually get a system where the ranks are Junior, Regular and Senior.
Junior is the Entry level position, I’ve never seen a company around here be super unreasonable with the requirements. The max they ask for is some personal experience with some specific tech stacks and general willingness to learn new stuff. They know it’s silly to ask for any work experience at that level and know that any hire will need quite a lot of support.
I meant nowhere does the post imply entry level/junior all it’s says is that starting pay won’t be good, which could be senior starting pay is no good or junior starting pay is no good.
Sometimes the person telling you that during the interview is subtly telling you to run.
Yep!
At my last job, I was already jumping ship, but I was still part of the interview process. I used to give “hypotheticals” then say, “were holding what you say against you. No seriously. I’m not fucking kidding.”
In the EU they will now have to post the salary range for a given position
Intro software Dev
$38,000-$250,000
Yeah I assume it will be that you have to have actual numbers, so if no junior software dev earns 250k then you can’t post that as upper range, I tried to find info about it, but it turns out it’s not EU regulation, only a directive so each member country will implement it’s own exact version
https://ravio.com/blog/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-eu-pay-transparency-directive#
Europe being based again just like always
Companies not giving a f and countries (at least NL) not enforcing anything like always.
I applied for a dev position with a salary range with the higher end fitting my requirements. I checked off basically all of the boxes in the job announcement as I had worked as a consultant for that very company in that same position for several years prior. After interviewing rounds and a programming task, the interviewers were very happy with me and were eager to get me started. However, their offer was in the lower ~20% of the salary range. When I asked for the reason, I was told that they had to cut back costs, so they couldn’t afford to pay me more.
So basically, the salary range was just bait to receive applications.
You only give a raise after exceeding expectations. We also never give exceeds expectations.
Our expectation is that you exceed expectations. So good luck.
This what they told my wife when she was carrying 250% of the caseload her peers were. Boss rated her 3/5 and said that no one gets 5s.
2 of her coworkers doing less than half the work she did got rated 5.
This is exactly why I’m so goddamn happy I’m in a union, we fought off the fucking cunts and won. Secured significantly better conditions and guaranteed raises for several thousand people all in one go. It was a pretty narrow vote though, they literally hired a guy to generate internal propaganda about how good getting a pay cut was going to be…
Imagine being that bustard. No shame
Were they peddling the tax bracket bullshit? “If you make more than $X, then you have to pay an extra Y% in taxes [but I’m not going to mention that that’s only on amounts over $X].”
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No nothing like that, they just offered the teeny tiniest little raises when we’d had 7+% inflation so our wages were effectively set back 2-3 years.
The ceo gave himself a $2 million bonus or something insane.
It ain’t easy being grammar.
In the first year of working my first job after finishing school, I sent a cancellation message out to 5000 cancer patients for their appts with the hospital.