unlike Americans they’re not inoculated against these ideas

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha did you watch the election results in the US mate? The US has a system with a far right party and a slightly less far right party

Exaxtly how provoked was the Naqba according to you

Saying that Israel has a right to defend itself from Oct 7th is completely equivalent to saying that Nazi Germany had the right to defend itself from Polish resistance attacks under occupation. Please learn about the Naqba before spewing IDF propaganda about the right of Israel to defend itself.

the pflp caused Trump to win

ROFL

Israel has a right to defend itself. So does every country

Why would you even say those words when it’s not the case? Israel isn’t defending itself, it’s committing genocide.

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If only we had any historical examples from, say, the past century, showing that the way to stop fascism is NOT by voting the socialdemocrats/liberals into power…

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Congrats, you now have much worse than a dem administration when it comes to that shithole israel

Nothing will fundamentally change in the Israel policy, it’s just that now people will start caring because it’s orange man doing it instead of genocide Joe

The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine explicitly called to boycott both candidates.

“Oh no, 18 million people stopped voting the Dems! Surely it’s the voter’s fault, not democrats being genocidal ghouls who can’t offer a shred of progressiveness!”

Somewhere that criticism of authoritarianism doesn’t get you banned

I got banned from politics @ .world for saying that the Uyghur genocide is made up and not even Radio Free Asia or Adrian Zenz have managed to make up any evidence for the past 3 years, while the instance is full of people denying the explicitly graphic genocide in Gaza. Please explain to me how .ml is more authoritarian than that

some of the worst the site has to offer in terms of pro-authoritarian bias

Pro authoritarian bias is when you’re against Israel’s genocide in Gaza, and when you criticise the two-party system in the US. Cry me a river, lib

Dang, I wish there were a term for that…

God, you’re so brainrotten by the narrative of “not voting for Harris is voting for Project 2025” that you can’t even get the words of the comment you’re responding to into your brain.

your proposal is

My proposal, as stated in the previous comment that you answered to: “enough numbers of progressives conditioning their vote to the end of genocide might make the dem administration sway towards ending the genocide”.

What part of that isn’t clear, or what part seems like calling for Project 2025?

By giving your unconditional vote to Harris, you’re not saying “I’m voting for the progressive candidate because of trans rights”. What you’re doing is saying “you can being the most republican-minded, Dick-Cheney-endorsed, conservative economically, and gaza-genocider candidate, as long as it’s minimally less harmful than Le Drumpf”. That’s how you enable the constant slide to the right in politics that you’ve seen for the psst decades. The idea isn’t solely “I’m too morally superior to vote for either wing of the American Corporate parties”, it’s also “enough numbers of progressives conditioning their vote to the end of genocide might make the dem administration sway towards ending the genocide.” And if not even that will make democrat leadership even question their commitment to the extermination of Palestinians, then the conclusion is simple: death to America.

If Harris wins, the republicans will nominate “evil candidate Mk.2”, and we’ll have you libs criticising people for protesting against Kamala’s support of the genocide, saying that “protests weaken democrats and we need them to win again in 2028 or else…”

So you must certainly agree with me that the US is consequently a terrorist state

Ok, that’s really good insight, so it boils down to France not respecting the 1935 treaty by refusing to declare Czechoslovakia as a victim of aggression?

As a Spanish, I can relate too well (sadly) to the part where the president of Czechoslovakia says “I did not dare to fight with Russian aid alone, because I knew that the British and French Governments would make out of my country another Spain”, I assume they’re talking of how the Soviet Union was the only country to sell weapons to Republican Spain in their fight against fascism, even as the Nazis and Italian Fascists were militarily and economically helping the reactionaries in Spain, and how France and England didn’t do anything under the guise of “non-interventionism”.

Sorry, I was going with Wikipedia there, care to elaborate more on what happened then?

invading poland side by side with the nazis

Again, literal Nazi revisionism. The invasion of Poland was mostly a peaceful process, and the only aim was to establish pro-communist forces in the area that would ensure Poland would join the USSR against the Nazis when the Nazis attacked. The same was attempted in Finland, and what do you know, Finland actually did join the Nazis during the Continuation War. And what do you know, the USSR retreated its troops from Poland after WW2.

Poland could have entered a military alliance with the USSR for the former 10 years, Stalin went as far as offering to send ONE MILLION soldiers, together with aviation and artillery, to military allies if France, England and Poland joined in a military alliance against the Nazis. But I guess they would rather see the Nazis massacre the communists first. That strategy didn’t work out as planned now, did it?

They didn’t want to get rid of the Nazis

This is incredibly ahistorical revisionism. The USSR prepared for the war against Nazi Germany for many years before it started. In the second half of the 1930s, seeing the Nazi rising to power (Nazis being overt enemies of Communism, as proven by what they did to Communists and to Unions in their controlled territories), they ramped up the weapon production and their military industry, and I’ll say it again in case it didn’t register: they spent the entire 30s seeking out military alliances with France, England and Poland against the Nazis. They offered military help to Czechoslovakia in 1938 during the Munich agreements in which Sudetenland was given to the Nazis.

Why do you think they had a NAP?

They had a non-aggression pact because Germany was an established industrial power for 100+ years at that point, while the USSR had had 19 years from 1921 after the Russian Civil War and WW1 to rebuild the country and to industrialise. They desperately needed every year they could get to reduce the industrial gap between them and the Nazis, as proven by the immense human cost to the USSR in the war against Nazis.

The Soviets literally saved Eastern Europe from an even worse fate, at immense cost of human lives (25+ million human lives lost in the USSR to Nazism), god knows how many millions more of Slavs (and other groups like Jews and Roma) the Nazis would have genocided if it hadn’t been for the Soviets. Have some respect before spewing anti-communist, nazi propaganda here, please.

because they wanted to do imperialism

You’re just showing you don’t know what “imperialism” is. The USSR never engaged in resource exploitation or unequal exchange with other countries, its terms of trade were always comparatively fair, especially if you compare those to the terms of trade of the western world.

The USSR didn’t have any imperialist ambitions. For fucks sake, the literal first thing the Bolsheviks did in 1917 after the October Revolution, was to implement a constitution which gave the full right of self-determination and unilateral secession to all peoples of the former Russian Empire, it’s literally how Poland gained independence, as well as many other countries like Finland or Ukraine. What did Poland immediately do: invading Ukraine and modern Belarus and attacking the RSFSR during the Russian Civil War because of its expansionist nationalist desires of going back to Polish-Lithuanian borders. Maybe that helps explain why the USSR didn’t trust Poland not to join the Nazis, especially after 10 years of Poland, France and England rejecting to form military alliances with the USSR against Nazis? Finns, after the winter war, quite literally joined the Nazis in the continuation war, going all the way to participating in the siege of Leningrad.

After the war, all of these countries that the USSR invaded went back to being their own countries as the USSS retreated all its troops. Such imperialism, amirite? The influence of the USSR in the politics of Eastern European countries after WW2, isn’t any greater than the influence of the US in western Europe, so unless you’re claiming that the US was carrying out imperialism in western Europe (and would have carried it in Eastern Europe too if it weren’t for the USSR), then no, the USSR didn’t carry out any imperialism.

immediately started spewing whataboutism

You literally have no idea what "whataboutism means, I gave a detailed explanation on why calling the Molotov-Ribbentrop a “deal with the Nazis”, and stopping there without further context, is revisionist and honestly very close to Nazi propaganda. You’re just saying “whataboutism whataboutism” because you’re actually incapable of refuting anything I’ve said.

I mean, that’s fucking amazing. Seriously, thank you.

Since it’s mostly just text (and links, which are also kinda text), maybe it would just be easier to have a pastebin or something?