Woman, not girl. I’m an adult and expect to be treated as such.
I feel no pressure to respond to aggression with physical violence. I recently sat through two friends (men) talking about how they feel too old to fight but if a strange guy were to roll up to them under certain conditions, they would have “no choice” but to physically fight them. I have never felt the need to physically fight a woman who disagreed with me. I would consider it a win and a good reflection on me if I could deescalate or remove myself from the situation.
Most other things I can think of are a double edged sword. Like being seen as a “girl” instead of a fully functioning, self-sufficient woman is usually a negative, but I can twist it in my favor to avoid things sometimes. I see other people commenting about women being able to interact with children without being seen as a potential pedophile, but that only comes because society expects women to do all the child-carrying.
There are certain scenarios where it’s not an urge to fight, it’s a necessity. Be a victim, or fight. It sounds like your friends were commenting on that type of scenario. As a woman you’ve probably never considered fighting an option in those scenarios, which is why you’ve never thought about it.
There are certain scenarios where it’s not an urge to fight, it’s a necessity. Be a victim, or fight
Man chiming in to say: literally do not understand this statement. I have, however, used other men in this mood as a weapon against them to make them even angrier at me, which is a hilarious way to quit your job btw
I’m not talking about office drama. I’m talking about getting cornered by someone in an alley on the way back to your car from a ballgame, or whatever. If you can’t run then you have two choices, you can fight, or be a victim. You’re fortunate that you’ve never been placed in a situation that would have allowed you to understand the statement.
I don’t know you, why should I know that you want to be called a woman? And adult, even mature men are called “boys” even between them. Again, I don’t understand you first statement.
Yes. Adult females do not want to be infantilized to be called “girls”. You don’t have to understand it to be a decent human being, you just have to respect it.
Maybe do some reading about women’s liberation if you want to understand.
You don’t see anything wrong with your language, but shockingly, the world doesn’t revolve around you. Just because you think something is fine doesn’t make it true.
Is it really that shocking that a woman wouldn’t want to be called girl or child? Sure, boy is still used. But in your post you used man, not boy. I’d say an easy rule is if you’d use the word man in a sentence, don’t use the word girl.
It’s not shocking that a woman wouldn’t want to be called a girl. It’s shocking that this particular woman claims to speak for all womankind. Fuck that noise, I know plenty of women who say “girls” and “boys” to refer to females and males of all ages.
Woman, not girl. I’m an adult and expect to be treated as such.
Interesting, cuz I’m interpreting that first sentence to mean how she’d like to be referred to, due to the second sentence referring to herself. Also note the singular “woman” and “girl”, not plural “women” and “girls”. Based on that it’s pretty clear she’s referring to an individual and not all womankind.
Am I missing something where she claims to speak for all womankind?
Hi, man here. I obviously can’t speak for women, but I can answer your question from my perspective.
“Girl” is a term used for young, inexperienced, non-adult female humans. When you call an adult woman a girl, you imply that she, her thoughts, and opinions are juvenile, and therefore are not to be taken as seriously as those of an adult. It’s called “infantilizing” and is disrespectful to that women, and realistically to all women.
For a moment, imagine you’re with another man you don’t know and when you say something, he contradicts you and begins to address you as “boy” or “son” in his response. His intent is to diminish you as a person and make you feel small, inferior or less a man or expert as him.
Now, I don’t know what country you come from or if English is your first language; this cultural aspect can apply to other English speaking countries, but specifically I’m talking about the US. One could certainly be forgiven for speaking English as a second language or not being from the US and not knowing this specific thing. I hope this helps.
Read your responses and read mine. Who’s who? You keep insulting me for no reason, your “reason” is that i used the word girl, in a general, correct context… You see how ridiculous are you acting or not?
I’m a guy and I’ve never felt the need to fight either. I’ve had women disappointed that I wouldn’t fight someone for them, but they might have a weapon, and they almost certainly have friends and could come back later! I don’t see a world where it’s worth the risk for me to fight someone other than immediate self defensez and even that is usually avoidable.
Oh and miss me with puffing myself up “what! You got beef??” -type nonsense. I refuse to be a dog barking on a chain just for some stupid social standing stuff.
The only times I’m worried about a fight is if I’m somewhere and someone with a mental illness might start something. Like the other day on the train someone was yelling very loudly to the car in general and being aggressive to people.
I wanted to do anything but fight, but I was mentally prepping in case I had to protect my step daughter. I was so relieved when he eventually went to a different car. I was even thinking of getting off and waiting for the next train.
Woman, not girl. I’m an adult and expect to be treated as such.
I feel no pressure to respond to aggression with physical violence. I recently sat through two friends (men) talking about how they feel too old to fight but if a strange guy were to roll up to them under certain conditions, they would have “no choice” but to physically fight them. I have never felt the need to physically fight a woman who disagreed with me. I would consider it a win and a good reflection on me if I could deescalate or remove myself from the situation.
Most other things I can think of are a double edged sword. Like being seen as a “girl” instead of a fully functioning, self-sufficient woman is usually a negative, but I can twist it in my favor to avoid things sometimes. I see other people commenting about women being able to interact with children without being seen as a potential pedophile, but that only comes because society expects women to do all the child-carrying.
There are certain scenarios where it’s not an urge to fight, it’s a necessity. Be a victim, or fight. It sounds like your friends were commenting on that type of scenario. As a woman you’ve probably never considered fighting an option in those scenarios, which is why you’ve never thought about it.
Man chiming in to say: literally do not understand this statement. I have, however, used other men in this mood as a weapon against them to make them even angrier at me, which is a hilarious way to quit your job btw
I’m not talking about office drama. I’m talking about getting cornered by someone in an alley on the way back to your car from a ballgame, or whatever. If you can’t run then you have two choices, you can fight, or be a victim. You’re fortunate that you’ve never been placed in a situation that would have allowed you to understand the statement.
Hey everyone! I’m an adult too! You can refer to me as ‘his lordliness’ and I expect to be treated as such.
Really… Being called girl is offensive now 🙄…
I don’t know you, why should I know that you want to be called a woman? And adult, even mature men are called “boys” even between them. Again, I don’t understand you first statement.
Idk, imagine being called a child, boy, preteen, teenager, or young adult when you’re in your late 20s or older.
Hearing your friends say “the boys” or women hearing “the girls” is endearments between friends, not strangers.
I really… REALLY, disagree, as long as you don’t have bad intentions it’s all good
Generally speaking, this is a problematic philosophy.
It’s all good if you have no bad intentions as long as you apologize when called out.
Good intentions do not give you a free pass, however they do help others understand where you’re coming from if you bring them up when apologizing.
“My bad, I didn’t know about that, growing up it was always okay to do XYZ”
“Sorry I made it more stressful for you, I thought I was helping”
hits very different from
“This is ridiculous, I had good intentions and you’re still upset 🙄”
In fact, if you say the latter you’re saying you have good intentions, but how good are those intentions if you refuse to help accommodate more?
Some understanding and clear communication will do a lot to smooth the axles of the world.
Yes. Adult females do not want to be infantilized to be called “girls”. You don’t have to understand it to be a decent human being, you just have to respect it.
Maybe do some reading about women’s liberation if you want to understand.
Speak for yourself lol
Women are not a monolith
No. This is ridiculous, I don’t see anything bad about either gender. I’m done with this
You don’t see anything wrong with your language, but shockingly, the world doesn’t revolve around you. Just because you think something is fine doesn’t make it true.
Is it really that shocking that a woman wouldn’t want to be called girl or child? Sure, boy is still used. But in your post you used man, not boy. I’d say an easy rule is if you’d use the word man in a sentence, don’t use the word girl.
It’s not shocking that a woman wouldn’t want to be called a girl. It’s shocking that this particular woman claims to speak for all womankind. Fuck that noise, I know plenty of women who say “girls” and “boys” to refer to females and males of all ages.
Interesting, cuz I’m interpreting that first sentence to mean how she’d like to be referred to, due to the second sentence referring to herself. Also note the singular “woman” and “girl”, not plural “women” and “girls”. Based on that it’s pretty clear she’s referring to an individual and not all womankind.
Am I missing something where she claims to speak for all womankind?
No, you’re right, I was looking at another comment and thought it was by the same person.
I though I was going crazy here, thank you sir
Both are synonyms
Hi, man here. I obviously can’t speak for women, but I can answer your question from my perspective.
“Girl” is a term used for young, inexperienced, non-adult female humans. When you call an adult woman a girl, you imply that she, her thoughts, and opinions are juvenile, and therefore are not to be taken as seriously as those of an adult. It’s called “infantilizing” and is disrespectful to that women, and realistically to all women.
For a moment, imagine you’re with another man you don’t know and when you say something, he contradicts you and begins to address you as “boy” or “son” in his response. His intent is to diminish you as a person and make you feel small, inferior or less a man or expert as him.
Now, I don’t know what country you come from or if English is your first language; this cultural aspect can apply to other English speaking countries, but specifically I’m talking about the US. One could certainly be forgiven for speaking English as a second language or not being from the US and not knowing this specific thing. I hope this helps.
And now you’re insulting me for no reason… well done white knight
Oh, you ARE an asshole on purpose. This all makes much more sense
Read your responses and read mine. Who’s who? You keep insulting me for no reason, your “reason” is that i used the word girl, in a general, correct context… You see how ridiculous are you acting or not?
Calm down, kid.
Well written. To add: “Boy” coming from a white person to a black man is even more offensive, what with all the chattel slavery history and whatnot.
You know damn well this isn’t the same in the slightest
He specifically mentioned “in the context of the US”.
If he had been talking about any other English-speaking country, I’d say it would be somewhat irrelevant.
But it most certainly isn’t when talking about the US, especially southern US.
I’m a guy and I’ve never felt the need to fight either. I’ve had women disappointed that I wouldn’t fight someone for them, but they might have a weapon, and they almost certainly have friends and could come back later! I don’t see a world where it’s worth the risk for me to fight someone other than immediate self defensez and even that is usually avoidable.
Oh and miss me with puffing myself up “what! You got beef??” -type nonsense. I refuse to be a dog barking on a chain just for some stupid social standing stuff.
The only times I’m worried about a fight is if I’m somewhere and someone with a mental illness might start something. Like the other day on the train someone was yelling very loudly to the car in general and being aggressive to people.
I wanted to do anything but fight, but I was mentally prepping in case I had to protect my step daughter. I was so relieved when he eventually went to a different car. I was even thinking of getting off and waiting for the next train.
That’s something that I’ve seen happen before. Also I always avoid older teens that think they’re hot shit and invincible.