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      She was likely a victim of the maga extremism indoctrination and social media, this is a bit distasteful

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        suuure. she was the victim… the traitor killed while trying smash into the Capitol Building and overthrow the government…

        /S

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        Every Nazi is a victim of extremism indoctrination. They don’t get a pass for that. She was a domestic enemy to the United States and died attacking our country. She deserves zero respect.

        The world became a slightly better place when she died.

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        “Just following orders” is not an excuse no matter how it’s veiled.

        She took part in a violent insurrection with the ultimate goal of overturning an election and destroying democracy.

        She had every opportunity to no being a cesspool of bigotry, racism and fascist supporter. Instead she chose at every option to continue her path.

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        To be a victim of maga extremism, you must already be bigoted enough to think that it is a reasonable opinion to have to want black and LGBT people to die. She deserved what she got.

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          Wasn’t it more conspiracies about democracy being compromised?

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        Fascists aren’t victims of the ideology they adopted, other people are. Good riddance to every dead fascist.

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        idk how else to downplay supporting trump at this point.

        public shaming is the last line of defense we have against these types of people since polite conversation clearly doesn’t work once you put the red hat on. what alternatives do you suggest? 🙂

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          public shaming is the last line of defense we have against these types of people

          Wait, really? I know liberals tend to like weird pseudo-pacifism, but have y’all really committed so hard to it that you think “public shaming” is our last line of defense?

          Get armed, and get trained. You may end up needing it. *We* may end up needing it.

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            get armed and get trained? how will that convince a trump voter to reject his ideology? doesn’t make any sense to me tbh

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              Youre not going to convince a fascist not to be a fascist by making them feel bad about it. If that was possible, there’d be no communists.

              Organising in your community, your workplace, and looking after yourself is what i think our friend was getting at

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              Perhaps I’ve misinterpreted your usage of “last line of defense”?

              These aren’t regular conservatives that we’re dealing with. MAGA is a fascist movement. The MO of fascists is to gain and hold power for their in-group by *any means necessary*. While it should never be our first option, we need to be willing and able to violently resist them, because they sure as hell don’t have any qualms about violently subjugating us.

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        You’re so right, she obviously doesn’t deserve to be derided, we should show her love and support because she died, it wasn’t her fault she was indoctrinated like this.

        For good measure, let’s posthumously pardon the Nazis that murdered hundreds or thousands of people and were later killed when their camps were taken. They were just victims of the Nazi extremism indoctrination and media, it’s a bit distasteful that people still slander them /s

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          Difference is she didn’t kill anybody that we know of

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        The sexualisation and humiliation of a person who cant object or consent is whats getting me.

        people will excuse themselves of a lot when they don’t like someone.

        I abaolutely do not care that she died, and her politics cant be handwaved away with ‘she was indoctrinated’, which would also equate to her having no agency. She knew what she was doing.