Ukrainian lawmakers on August 20 approved a bill banning religious organizations linked to the Russian Orthodox Church, which Kyiv has criticized for being supportive of Moscow's full-scale invasion.

Such freedoms, like in doge meme wow

Apologise for linking RFE article, but it’s kinda funny because most other western outlets just copied them, and even funnier because they used even more biased language than a fucking RFE.

Also take notes:
Socialist countries mildly controlling the reactionary religious institutions: OMG BANNING RELIGION, OPRESSION, FASCISM, MISTAKE, ALIENATING PROLETARIAT (choose your flavour)
Neonazi US puppet outright banning church with millions believers: “Spiritual sovereignity”

  • Absolute@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 months ago

    Definitely although hard to say how exactly because the ones openly belonging to the Moscow Patriarchate are being gradually deplatformed for years.

    this is what I was getting at I think when I said it might be viewed as a crucial error, because that group that has been systematically deplatformed can’t be tiny right ? and its one thing to mess with nationality and politics of these people but I feel like attacking the church is unnecessary step too far

    It’s not catholicism, there are below 8% of catholics in Ukraine, it’s state sponsored schism in the orthodox church, purely politically motivated and although the docrine remains the same the new de facto state religion supports the ukronazi actions very much and entire situation looks kinda like church support for ustase during ww2, though in this case the Kiev church is more of a puppet, after all, every sincgle church that didn’t complied ended up shaken up by Kiev goons with confiscates and priest imprisonments. Legality of the schism is also kinda dubious, because even if other patriarchates recognized it, Moscow didn’t so it’s outside meddling, something previously heavily criticized in orthodox church.

    When I said Catholicism I meant Orthodox I think sorry, I’m not as familiar as i should be with branches of Christianity. Totally agree with you that new doctrine is clearly aligned to push ukronazi agenda, I guess my question is just to what degree is there pushback against this in the Ukraine ? Perhaps its just my preconceived biases but id have thought that even among those in the Ukraine who were on board with russophobia, NATO war ect there must be many who find government attacks on the church unnecessary/unsavory, as it seems from what I gather that that previously existing ukrainian orthodox church was far removed from Russia already and really only took issue with theological type stuff related to the schism (though once again i am theologically illiterate so good chance i am misunderstanding)

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.mlOPEnglish
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      4 months ago

      I guess my question is just to what degree is there pushback against this in the Ukraine ?

      No idea, there is no trustworthy info about it. Nothing major though, but i imagine country in which army is openly kidnapping and harassing people and where opposition is jailed or murdered by fascist mobs might have this supressed.

      previously existing ukrainian orthodox church was far removed from Russia already

      Doctrinally and thologically there is zero diferences, politically yes, although the schism was only in 2019, so you can see it’s very recent development, i wouldn’t be surprised to see US money in that, it wouldn’t be even first time nor the 100th where orthodox church took US money for working against people.