First of all. This is not another “how do I exit vim?” shitpost.

I’ve been using (neo)vim for about two years and I started to notice, that I,m basically unable to use non-vim editors. I do not code a lot, but I write a lot of markown. I’d like to use dedicated tools for this, but their vim emulators are so bad. So I’m now stuck with my customized neovim, devoid of any hope of abandoning this strange addiction.

Any help or advice?

  • astro_ray@piefed.social
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    2 months ago

    I don’t know understand why you need markdown, but if you are so used to vim motions why not switch to latex instead. You wouldn’t have to worry about katex support as well. This is an advice solely based on your need for katex support without understanding your needs.

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    2 months ago

    Switch to GUI editors with Word-like navigation. You will struggle but eventually your vim habits will fade away and then you will be able to use any editor with slightly various levels of performance.

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    2 months ago

    The trick is do the opposite, namely bring vim everywhere, e.g using Tridactyl you can bring some behaviors to the browser and, in this very textarea from lemmy, if I press Ctrl+i I get gvim, when I exit it, the content is back in the textarea and I can reply. Vim everywhere.

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    2 months ago

    I don’t know if this will work for you, and I’m not sure if you’re only looking for TUI editors, but Obsidian has vi key bindings and a lot of plugins.

    Disclaimer: I have not tried the vi key bindings in Obsidian.

    Another one I use is vscode. It has a ton of markdown plugins and vi key bindings. It also has a nice preview window.

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      2 months ago

      Obsidian should not be suggested for general use without the disclaimer that you have to pay if you use it for any work in most cases (unless you work for a very small place or a non-profit). I think their license is probably one of the most unintentionally violated around, kind of can’t believe they’re on flathub.

      Commercial use means using Obsidian for revenue-generating or work-related activities within a for‑profit organization that has two or more employees. Government departments and agencies are considered commercial use, unless registered as a non-profit organization.

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    2 months ago

    Why do you want stop using Vim in the first place? That would be a good information to have, to give help. What dedicated tools do you mean? What do they offer that you miss in Vim? If you just hate Vim and want stop using it no matter what, the only solution is to uninstall it, to not fall into those habits of using it everywhere. Over time you should get used to those other editors and tools.

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    2 months ago

    Just switch to VSCode or something similar, it has enough features and shortcuts that will quickly make you like at least 80% as productive as you were in Vim. It even has a Vim mode so you can wean yourself off of it more easily.

    Honestly never got the appeal of Vim, you need to spend so much time learning and configuring it only to squeeze out a little bit of extra productivity out of it when compared to a “normal” editor/IDE. I don’t see why it’s so important to be able to edit and write code as quickly as possible since most of the time you’re going to be debugging or looking at the code or reading docs.

    EDIT: Just noticed you said you don’t code a lot. I think most of what I said still applies, I imagine you don’t spend 99% of the time in the editor typing away.

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      2 months ago

      I used to use Sublime for notes and then VSCode and those types of text editors work just fine for non code stuff imo. VSCode even has syntax highlighting for Markdown so could be a plus for OP.

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      2 months ago

      To your “never got the appeal”.

      Ngl for me using vim is the only option. If something needs to be done using a mouse, it’s just not going to be done. I can’t aim properly due to problems with my arms, and it itches something in my brain everytime I try, it makes me literally furious and enraged.

      I tried using zed, but quickly found out that I can only control the text field with motions, nothing else.

      If I try using mouse, speed of anything I do gets multiplied by 0.1.

      Thanks to vim, I’m able to work with loads of text at all.

      Simple as that.

  • Palacegalleryratio [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Right, so you want eMacs evil mode with some choice vim plugins. Excellent vim emulation. The terminal interface is pretty good, and the GUI version has some excellent markdown plugins that give you a live preview. Get started with doom-emacs as it’s very pro vim and modernised out of the box. Then once you’ve got into eMacs you’ll not have any issues with free time ever again, as everything you could possibly want to do you’ll be doomed to finding out how to do in eMacs.