Normal people have friends and family and would like to use social media to stay in touch with them. There are network effects that make it practically impossible to switch. This is not something that can be done with the power of love and well informed agent in the marketplace.
One solution would be to nationalize facebook and other social media and turn them into public utility coops that are run democratically by giving the workers that work there a vote for who and how they should be managed. And give the users a vote.
Everything else is just fantasy. Facebook is forever. You’d need many billions in marketing and advertising to get enough people to switch. And then it will be the same shit.
Unless of course Elon Musk buys facebook, then it will be trash in less than a year.
Those same people have phones which have phone numbers and unlimited amount of apps that provide the exact same ability.
There are network effects that make it practically impossible to switch.
Stop making excuses for your lack of morals. If they truly cared about you they wouldn’t mind texting your phone number or using another app.
Let me guess, you continue to use Twitter too
No I don’t use facebook or twitter. But it’s more for personal disgust than for morals. Nothing you or I or ten thousand lemmings do or not do will change the rising domination of social media on our civilization. Same as our individual choices won’t impact climate change. It’s the same illusion that only serves to prevent actual action against a serious threat. Not even thinking or talking about possible solutions. Corporate control of the means of communication is amoral, and accepting it is problematic.
Maybe I’m wrong and network effects can be overcome through a well crafted alternative like mastadon. But capital translates into power for marketing, development, articles and regulation or even legislation.
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Normal people have friends and family and would like to use social media to stay in touch with them.
Normal people stay in touch with their loved ones even if they are not on the same platform. You do not need everyday group chat noise for that.
Ah normal people. My apologies
There are a ton of people who got on reddit and never got on anything else. I like to stay in contact with some of them.
It has all the local groups and my friends and family. I like to see what’s happening locally and with my friends and family.
I don’t know anyone under 65 that uses FB unless it’s their only contact method for a friend / family member.
Sorta’. Far from actively. The landscape is unrecognizable from it’s origin and the way it’s used is even more foreign. It’s 95% ads.
I still use Fb because of the groups/pages there.
There are mentorship and professional groups there that aren’t available elsewhere.
Plus, the local groups for my town/state provide crucial information about weather, taxes, traffic, river safety, etc. In general, it’s a good source of knowledge.
I hate that I’m giving up privacy, but there are also no other social media networks that can compete. I can’t message/Signal my closest 5,000 neighbors to find out which local/free berry patch is ready for picking. But, there’s a fb group for that.
This is the exact same bs people spew to defend staying on Twitter.
There meme pages can be really good if you find the ones that don’t have a racist fuckwaffle in charge
Facebook in my country is where you go to find the best deals on secondhand shit. i got a backpackers tent worth ove £100 from someone on FB marketplace for £15
I use it for marketplace that’s all. Fake name, no friends.
I can’t use meta out of self respect
There are dozens of us that don’t have a FB account!
I created a new one just to use the marketplace. I don’t post or read anything else.
Mine dates to '09. It’s been dead since '14. I only keep it around to use Marketplace since Craigslist is basically dead.
The only reason I keep my fb is so my mum can send me things she finds funny online.
Instagram… It’s not great but all my friends are there. And it also has kpop.
I mean, I mentioned that my experience with Pixelfed has not been the best, since it lacks content and discoverability. I wouldn’t sign up again to Instagram (I deleted my accounts years ago), but it’s obvious that it has orders of magnitude more content, and maybe the recommendation algorithm can be useful sometimes.
Personally, even if I don’t want to, I have to use WhatsApp since everyone in my country uses it, even government offices.
Who gives a shit what other people use?
I mean, I do. That’s why I asked. Curiosity.
Respect
The only thing keeping me on Facebook these days is marketplace. If that wasn’t the main thing people in my city use to post used items I would have deleted it ages ago.
Yeah kinda hard to get around that
It’s actually EXTREMELY easy to get around that, so many fucking apps and communities for selling things locally.
If you’re still using fb software stop lying to the rest of us, you simply don’t care about how evil the company is.
Absolutely bs to continue giving meta interactions (and thus money) just because a perceived majority use it in your area.
It’s the same goddamn bullshit as “all the people I like post on Twitter so I couldn’t possibly stop using it!!!”. Get a fucking grip on your morales.
You’re not wrong. The inertia people have towards this stuff is unbelievable sometimes. You will be fine without marketplace. You’ll survive if you don’t see fresh content on Reddit every second of your life. People act like FAANG is fucking Kuato growing out of their abdomen, inseparable but through pain of death.
Life existed long before this exploitative shit.
I mean, yes. But fbk marketplace is the quickest and safest way for me to get some local random to come pick up a bird bath I don’t want.
I get your point but you have to convince ALL the people selling stuff in marketplace to post it anywhere else that isn’t meta. There is literally no other app or community online in my local area. It is not a “perceived majority” it IS the majority.
Haven’t had Facebook in at least 5 years, probably more. I had a Reddit account for 13 years, but got banned for saying I wished MTG would trip and swallow her own head. They said I was inciting violence. Fuck Reddit. I had an Instagram account for a while and I posted joke pictures of random everyday objects with lots of filters. After insta became a super battery drain spy box app, I deleted app and account and never looked back. Never got into twitter, certainly wont now. Lenny seems to be one of the few platforms that isn’t totally ruined by shitty people and companies.
Lost an 11 year account on the other site for reporting a thread where some ‘frienworld’ style fashi bois were planning a hit and run at a protest the next week.
20 mins later my account was permabanned for ‘ban evasion’ despite that being my only reddit account ever.
Haha, I got banned from leddit for talking shit about spez during the api outrage days. Not even anything violent, but got the perma for harassment.
Good riddance, enjoy the paid subs morons
