• carl_marks[use name]@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Those are vocational training centers and.noone disputes their existence, lib. Also it’s funny you’re sharing the Wikipedia link that used to be called “Uyghur genocide” but had to change title due to lack of evidence

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      3 months ago

      It’s funny to see that how everything that oppose you is a liberal, while you’re being brainwashed with communist ideals. CCP doesn’t like minorities, especially Turkic minorities. What they do is mere assimilation and it doesn’t fall far from genocide. Lack of evidence is a cool term, because it’s total controlled under CCP. They don’t allow foreign media there. Hmm, what could be the reason I wonder.

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        3 months ago

        CCP doesn’t like minorities, especially Turkic minorities. What they do is mere assimilation and it doesn’t fall far from genocide

        The fact that Xinjiang has one of the worlds highest mosque densities and having arabic description everywhere contradicts your assessment.

        Lack of evidence is a cool term, because it’s total controlled under CCP. They don’t allow foreign media there. Hmm, what could be the reason I wonder.

        Israel has banned aljazeera and other news outlets and organizations critical of them from their territory, yet are not able to hide the genocide on the Palestinians.

        Considering this your assessment is also laughable

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          Of course Israel is not able to hide genocide, it’s a small country and not even a real country.

          How about send me a map of those mosques then? How many mosques for those 10 million people? Communism doesn’t like any religion. If you really believe they don’t oppose any religion in China, you’re the laughable one. They slowly destroy starting from the smaller minorities.

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              3 months ago

              I cannot do the research out of my interests, that’s why I’m asking. And thanks for the proper reply for once. If there are indeed 25000 mosques and even though I only count Uyghurs as muslims (probably not and probably not all of them are muslims too), that would make approximately 1 mosque per 400 person, which is indeed pretty dense.

              However, assimilation is a sly snake. I met different Uyghur people who were able to ran away from Xinjiang and all of them were depressed. They told some disturbing stories. All I really can say is “Where there is no fire, there is no smoke”. Happy people wouldn’t do that.

              I suggest you to check this video if you can.

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                3 months ago

                Thank you for acknowledging that the situation isnt black and white, also I aplogize for commenting with an overly hostile tone.

                Since it’s impossible to prove a negative (the burdon of prove lies with the accuser/west), there’s a context that you might be missing and be interested. Here’s a comprehensive contextualization from the Chinese perspective utilizing western sources:

                https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

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                  3 months ago

                  No problem. To be fair, these situations are never black and white and I’m kinda sick of people who talk about them like they are. And thank you for your understanding as well. People here are prejudiced and sadly I act like one of them time to time since I rarely see people who isn’t and that makes the conversations here bland, one-sided, like talking to a wall.

                  I’m not a journalist, nor a researcher. I’m pretty far from politics too but sadly nothing can be done without it. However, I cannot stand when people talk a lot with knowing little. It’s normal to not know things, it’s not normal to refuse to read / learn. Most of the time I cannot even get a proper reply here and that makes me sad. So, thanks again.

                  Anyway, I started to read the article and I definitely agree with the part, countries should solve these problems on their own without the outside influence. Though it’s pretty much of a two-sided blade, and a very sharp one.

                  I don’t trust Western media as well since most known ones are controlled by Jews. Fair enough it’s quite hard to find unbiased news on the internet, close to impossible perhaps. However they are still effective as insights.