I can’t vouch for the author at all, but this seems like a nice detailed, technical look at the difference between the two.

TL;DR the 212CD is very good at what in biology would be called “sit and wait predation”. It’s designed to sneak into an ocean floor crevice and hang out there, possibly for for weeks until something comes by, and then attack it. The Hanwha offering, on the other hand, is less superlatively stealthy and maneuverable, but is much more flexible, allowing missile launches and likely having a much longer range.

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    Fuck off. My words would explain MAD, just like wikipedia did, but I’m too lazy to rewrite wilipedia for someone who has the knowledge of a child and an allergy to reading.

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      OK, so you’re not actually willing to use your own words in a conversation and you have resorted to childishness. OK well… I don’t think that you should be deciding whether or not someone should have a nuclear weapon.

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        This is coming off as deliberately obtuse.

        If you have a nuke, and someone wants to take your shit or kill you, they will be deterred from doing so. Will anyone ever use a nuke in this situation? Who knows, but it would probably cause a world war. Millions, if not billions could die. Governments could collapse. Entire species could be wiped out. The results are nearly unfathomable. I don’t think anyone wants to be the cause of that.

        If Ukraine nuked Russia, or vice versa, it would likely result in the destruction of both countries regardless of who the nuke hit, hence the previous commenters wiki link to mutually assured destruction.

        It’s uncharted territory for humanity, and no one wants to fuck around a find out.

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          It’s not obtuse it’s a direct question

          If a nuclear weapon was given to Ukraine, and Russia called bullshit, and continued to fight Ukraine… What do you think Ukraine should do?

          It is a simple fucking question you are just too afraid to answer it.

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            You’re definitely being deliberately obtuse. Maybe even sealioning. Ukraine being given nukes after Russia invaded is a totally different thing.

            As the other poster said if Ukraine had nukes Russia would not have invaded in the first place.

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              I’m not being obtuse. It’s a direct fucking question. If Ukraine had nukes, and Russia decided to say we don’t give a fuck what you have, we’re gonna invade you anyway… What Do you personally think Ukraine should do with that nuke? You just know that if you actually answer the question you’re going to lose any argument you make.