• BeeegScaaawyCripple@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      That’s a reasonable request. In all honesty I will probably stick with the notation i’ve already been using the last several decades. Same Sex Attraction/-ed/&c. is also theoretically a respectable and scientific term, but i’ve been around too many people who use it as a slur so i’m not sold on adopting scientific nomenclature for colloquial use.

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      18 days ago

      Wouldn’t gender minorities include men? Women is the majority gender. I think you need a term that excludes cis men and women.

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    I know this isn’t the point but I mean, isn’t persecuted kinda the opposite side of the spectrum from popular? So in a way, you can say it’s more popular now compared to then. Treating people who were more reviled and vilified in the past kinda make more popular a de facto status. Pedantic!

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    19 days ago

    AIDS is a huge one.

    I met someone a little while ago who was fresh out of the closet and complaining how long they’d spent there.

    Statistically, they’d be dead if they were out pre AIDS.

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        You can’t use statistics to evaluate what would have happened to an individual. Someone’s personal behavior matters more than what they statistically ‘should’ have happened to them. It also depends on where they were located; while 10% of young gay men in the US as a whole died of AIDS, over 60% of young male deaths in San Francisco at the height of the crisis were due to AIDS.

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        Yeah, we know anecdotally that it was horrific and that the government was indifferent at best, but I’d like to quantify it as well.

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        Perhaps I exaggerate, but this person was in a geographic region particularly hard-hit and turns out is really into some of the dangrous behaviour (adjusting filters as part of coming out is, evidently, difficult).

        In 1990, AIDS caused 61% of all deaths of men aged 25-44 (born 1946-1965) in San Francisco, 35% in New York, 51% in Ft. Lauderdale, 32% in Boston, 33% in Washington, DC, 39% in Seattle, 34% in Dallas, 38% in Atlanta, 43% in Miami, and 25% in Portland, Oregon.

        Also: https://academic.oup.com/gerontologist/article-abstract/52/2/255/613902

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    Dont forget the ones who internalized homophobia and became gay-persecuting Republicans with Grindr accounts.

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    “Being gay and trans is just a fad” says the generation that wiped out most of the queer population by ignoring a disease that literally killed most of their queer friends and family. And then made their living queer friends taboo because they like another person of the same sex

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      Most? I am highly skeptical of this claim. Iirc, lgbt people make up about 10% of the population. Depending on your interpretation, it could be far more, but let’s say 10%. “Most” of 10% would be 5%. Are you really claiming that AIDS killed a whole 5% of the population in the 80s? That would be… a lot

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        GP says queer friends and family. So assuming queer people have non-queer family members, that would be much more than 10%. Maybe 40% or more?

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    19 days ago

    social supports

    Trusses and braces and proper earthworks; completely different from support like counselling and community.

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    Montrose, down in Houston, is wall to wall Gay Boomers. Not a coincidence that Houston has been one of the friendliest cities for gay men to live straight back to the 1970s

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    Don’t forget how many simply refused to entertain reality in the first place. Every so often we still see someone telling on themselves, like “If he didn’t actually have sex with men, he’s not gay. If gay was just attraction we would all be gay.” They got pushed so far into the closet that they thought that was just how the world is.

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    Insert left-handedness over time chart superimposed on prevalence of teaching kids they must write with right hand regardless of their preference.

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    I always cringe when conservatives around my age say there were no trans kids back when they were in school, because I was just abused out of my school when I was outed as a trans man and had to be homeschooled instead. (I’m not talking about just bullying, the abuse culminated with three classmates raping me on school property before classes one morning.)

    The other trans kid I knew of in my class was literally expelled once she came out. (Something the school blamed on me, since they claimed they had to kick her out after how classmates had reacted to me.)

    So, I guess there are no trans kids in school with you if you attack them until they leave, or just throw them out.