• Zorque@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Well the feeling of ickiness you get is certainly something that needs to be addressed.

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        3 months ago

        Meaning that there’s an undercurrent of distrust in “groups of white guys” that isn’t good. There’s certainly been groups that have done horrible things. But, as evidenced by this one, there’s also groups that are wholesome and well-meaning.

        So the thing they’re trying to address is that you shouldn’t need to feel ickiness just because it’s a group of white guys.

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          3 months ago

          Ew. No. Racially restrictive groups are good when there’s a reason for the group to need to seek solidarity in the face of discrimination or to seek support for group-specific issues, neither of which apply to white men in America. White men do not need racial organizations.

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            3 months ago

            Ah, thanks for clarifying.

            I’m sure the idea of something being okay for some races but not for others has a name.

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              3 months ago

              Yes, it’s called historical precedent. And not even historical anymore, just ask anyone in downtown Nashville.

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                If you want to use historical precedent to make reductionist takes, really nobody should ever organize into any kind of group because if you dig far enough back everyone has violent, savage ancestors. History has proven that all groups of people have, at some point, done horrible things. There should be no United Nations because literally every government has a dark history. Also, how can we trust teachers (who each have had some horrible things in their ancestry) to teach our children?! Doctors should not provide care because there is a long history of systemic abuse in the field.

                At least be consistent.

                As for current events, maybe separate the good and the bad instead of just labeling everyone in a group bad. Historically and in the present lots of groups fought and bled for equity. You’re shitting all over it.